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10:59:20 <anonimasu> hello
10:59:21 <anonimasu> :)
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16:51:40 <rayh> rayh has changed the topic to: "Mazak running some.  HAL works well with multiple IO systems.  CL running some of the logic."
17:11:44 <rayh> How bout talk on handling EMC in the HAL and CL environment.
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19:08:28 <rayh> Hi alex.
19:08:40 <alex_joni> hello
19:10:18 <rayh> Say thanks again for all your work on ioControl.cc
19:11:45 <alex_joni> np... does it work ok now?
19:12:04 <alex_joni> * alex_joni still didn't finish that estop stuff :(
19:12:46 <rayh> All the stuff I was able to try did fine.  I'm back home for a while.
19:13:14 <alex_joni> nice (for you) :)
19:13:26 <alex_joni> any plans for the mazak? or is it over for now?
19:14:11 <rayh> My plan is to figure out how to handle the many additional tasks I want buttons for.
19:14:28 <alex_joni> I see.. from here on I think it'll start to get custom
19:14:31 <rayh> I've already got a feedhold button wired in and connected to HAL.
19:14:40 <rayh> but no where to go from there.
19:15:13 <rayh> It would need to set scale to zero and then back to whatever value scale had before it was pressed.
19:15:25 <rayh> And that is only one example.
19:17:07 <alex_joni> hmm.. tough one :)
19:18:35 <rayh> What I'm thinking sounds crazy.  I don't want ioControl to access all commands and all status all the time.
19:19:26 <alex_joni> right..
19:19:34 <alex_joni> maybe a custom module might be more appropiate
19:19:44 <alex_joni> one with NML messages and HAL-pins
19:19:48 <alex_joni> coded to fit your needs
19:20:31 <rayh> Or a blank set that can be configured a bit like the HAL.
19:20:50 <alex_joni> a blank set of NML messages?
19:21:39 <rayh> Damn.  I don't even know quite how to think about it.
19:21:53 <alex_joni> yup..
19:22:00 <rayh> Like a blank that you could set to some known NML.
19:22:04 <alex_joni> maybe a module for user-interface(buttons)
19:22:14 <alex_joni> could we make such a list?
19:22:29 <alex_joni> what would a UI (not software, but hardware) contain?
19:22:45 <alex_joni> * alex_joni thinks of jogging buttons (like a joystick), spindle on/off, etc
19:22:54 <alex_joni> maybe an scale for feedoverride
19:22:56 <rayh> I'd think that it would include most all of the buttons and menu items that tkemc has
19:23:14 <rayh> and I want to add spindle speed override the same way.
19:23:22 <rayh> it is not in there at all right now.
19:29:02 <alex_joni> hmm.. then maybe the answer would be smthg like emcsh but on HAL-side
19:29:07 <alex_joni> what do you think?
19:31:10 <rayh> If we could set up and edit NML messages on the user side, which a bit of shmem could be addressed for the changed variable.
19:31:25 <rayh> and triggered from HAL...
19:32:20 <alex_joni> not sure I'm following you..
19:33:04 <rayh> On the user side of shmem, there is an almost complete NML message.
19:33:15 <rayh> It might be a scale message.
19:33:20 <alex_joni> right
19:33:30 <rayh> The only thing it is missing is the actual scale to be set.
19:34:11 <rayh> A hal pin is defined that sends this message.
19:34:34 <rayh> When that hal pin switches, the NML is completed
19:34:54 <rayh> by looking at some shmem variable for the exact scale to be sent.
19:34:55 <alex_joni> yes, but this can't be made generic enough
19:35:15 <alex_joni> you would want to do the scale put to 0 then back to where it was
19:35:20 <alex_joni> that is certainly not trivial
19:36:10 <alex_joni> * alex_joni looks at emcsh.cc
19:36:34 <rayh> Yes we would have to move scale in status to lastscale in shmem
19:36:58 <alex_joni> that means you actually have a slider in HAL, not a button
19:36:59 <rayh> and then set it to thisscale when the second buttonpress happens.
19:37:35 <alex_joni> what I think we lack is a scripting language
19:38:25 <alex_joni> not sure at what level (maybe task), but it should be able to output motion, io and other actions
19:38:28 <rayh> ??
19:38:44 <alex_joni> so you could hack up your custom functions
19:38:45 <rayh> Oh that.  Yes Yes Yes.
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19:39:04 <alex_joni> just the man missing from the picture
19:39:04 <alex_joni> :D
19:39:09 <alex_joni> hi john
19:39:12 <jmkasunich> hi
19:39:20 <alex_joni> you dropped in just right, can you read back about 40 lines?
19:39:24 <alex_joni> logger_mzk, bookmark
19:39:24 <alex_joni> See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcmazak/2005-10-30#T19-39-24
19:39:54 <jmkasunich> reading now
19:43:03 <jmkasunich> seems ray is talking about the same stuff on the main list
19:43:09 <jmkasunich> why don't we just talk there?
19:43:20 <alex_joni> ok.. fine with me
19:43:32 <rayh> This was more detailed but that works for me.
19:43:43 <rayh> and fenn and others are there as well.
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