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13:14:43 <alex_joni> rayh: are you around?
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15:05:26 <jmkasunich> just got in this morning
15:05:31 <jmkasunich> ray's here too
15:05:57 <rayh-away> I'm baaaacck!
15:06:22 <alex_joni> hey rayh
15:06:31 <alex_joni> * alex_joni is having problems with tkemc :)
15:06:58 <rayh-away> Symptoms?
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15:07:36 <alex_joni> it's a bug I'm trying to fix
15:07:44 <alex_joni> the one with axes 'X Z A'
15:07:56 <alex_joni> it seems the problem is in how tkemc remembers the axes it has
15:07:59 <rayh> Okay.
15:08:54 <rayh> A bit of history.  In the old days... perhaps still... we had to send all commands to x as axis 0
15:09:07 <rayh> y as 1, z 2...
15:09:17 <alex_joni> yup
15:09:28 <rayh> We used both axis numbers and names.  from two different ini lines
15:09:28 <alex_joni> but it seems that if you have XZA, then the axes are called 012
15:09:31 <alex_joni> not 023
15:09:38 <alex_joni> so that's where tkemc assumes wrong
15:10:15 <rayh> If it does assume 012 then it has a problem introduced in the last three years or so.
15:11:06 <rayh> That is all that stuff about if coordnames...
15:11:54 <rayh> Do we still need 1,3,4 if the machine is x,z,a?
15:12:21 <alex_joni> we need 0 1 2 if the machine is X,Z,A
15:12:34 <alex_joni> but it assumes 0, 2, 3
15:12:59 <rayh> So emc uses whatever names you put on that ini line to route commands.
15:13:18 <alex_joni> no.. to get it straight
15:13:32 <alex_joni> right now tkemc builds: 0,2,3 and it should really o 0,1,2 mapped to XZA
15:14:27 <rayh> There were problems with the interpreter that caused us to require x=0 y=1 z=2 a=3...
15:14:52 <rayh> and you had to have those extra axis definitions in the ini even though you didn't display them with tkemc.
15:15:26 <rayh> The coordnames stuff was just a gui tweak rather than a emc fix.
15:17:16 <alex_joni> yup, but it seems it's fixed now (in emc), and tkemc still does the thing which causes it to fail
15:18:11 <rayh> a motion command looks like
15:18:20 <rayh> Issuing EMC_AXIS_INCR_JOG --     (+125,+32,    +7,    +0,1.000000,1.000000,)
15:18:20 <rayh> emcStatus->motion.traj.mode = 1
15:18:21 <rayh> Issuing EMC_AXIS_INCR_JOG --     (+125,+32,    +8,    +1,1.000000,1.000000,)
15:18:21 <rayh> emcStatus->motion.traj.mode = 1
15:18:22 <rayh> Issuing EMC_AXIS_INCR_JOG --     (+125,+32,    +9,    +2,1.000000,1.000000,)
15:18:22 <rayh>     
15:18:51 <rayh> The difference between these is the +0 +1 +2 which is the axis the motion command is intended for.
15:20:15 <alex_joni> yes it does
15:20:22 <alex_joni> ok.. need to go away for a while
15:20:25 <alex_joni> will work on this later
15:20:36 <rayh> Quick question.
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15:21:04 <rayh> Do you want tkemc to map x to 0 z to 2
15:21:27 <rayh> or do you think that emc can handle x at 0 z at 1
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16:30:01 <steves_stallings> rayh: morning, I found paramater in my copy of wiki config to direct upload files, but cannot find config on sourceforge, going to need help from alex or paul
16:49:19 <rayh> Okay.  I'll see if I can give alex a heads up.
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17:24:23 <steves_stallings> hi alex, I need some help with wiki stuff
17:27:49 <alex_joni> shoot
17:27:54 <alex_joni> not sure I can help though :D
17:28:54 <steves_stallings> file uploads are not working, I found $UploadDir in my local copy of wiki config, but cannot find config on SourceForge
17:29:08 <alex_joni> * alex_joni knows little about the wiki there
17:29:36 <steves_stallings> computer literate, linux ignorant, have no idea where wiki code is on source forge amid the jungle of files
17:29:37 <alex_joni> can you describe where you found it?
17:29:47 <alex_joni> ahh.. ok :D
17:29:58 <steves_stallings> i didn't, got local copy before it moved
17:30:02 <alex_joni> Database is stored in temporary directory /tmp/persistent/e/em/emc/wiki/wiki
17:30:08 <alex_joni> not sure about the rest :)
17:30:13 <alex_joni> let me ssh and look around
17:30:24 <steves_stallings> I will ssh also...
17:33:26 <alex_joni> go to /home/groups/e/em/emc/
17:34:11 <alex_joni> there is a config file there
17:34:35 <alex_joni> and $UploadDir and $UploadUrl are in there
17:34:39 <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes back to tkemc
17:36:08 <alex_joni> rayh: still about?
17:37:12 <rayh> Yes I am.
17:37:20 <steves_stallings> alex, well if I try to edit we could have a mess, I will be happy to look and learn, but if I try you could have a bigger job of cleanup  8-)
17:38:14 <steves_stallings> last time I ran a *nix system was in the early 80's using vi editor (which I do not remember!)
17:39:16 <rayh> vi is short for vile
17:39:45 <rayh> imo the newer editors are much more intuitive.
17:40:17 <steves_stallings> 300 baud and 12 line window even!
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17:46:23 <alex_joni> rayh: around?
17:48:47 <steves_stallings> alex: should I try to use a text editor on ssh console or is it easy to upload and download files using ssh?
17:49:40 <alex_joni> you could use vi I guess
17:51:04 <steves_stallings> any idea if wiki will need restart to have changes take effect?
17:52:34 <alex_joni> don't think so
17:52:46 <alex_joni> it's interpreted, so it should read that file on every access.. I think
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17:59:00 <steves_stallings> well the upload dir looks sensible, but files I upload do not appear there
17:59:37 <alex_joni> I know.. seen that too
17:59:48 <alex_joni> * alex_joni suggest looking for access rights on that dir
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19:17:29 <alex_joni_busy> starting to think it's a problem in emc2 ...
19:18:10 <rayh> it's?
19:18:25 <alex_joni_busy> motion control
19:18:32 <alex_joni_busy> naming is not done like in the rest of emc
19:18:42 <alex_joni_busy> need to look into more detail
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19:37:25 <CNC_Workshop> Hi alex.  I'm just starting to look around in the mazak pc.
19:37:57 <CNC_Workshop> rayh that is
19:44:24 <CNC_Workshop> may need a bit of pointer as I progress with startup stuff.
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20:03:30 <CNC_Workshop> Hi tom.  I'm sitting at the mazak pc now.
20:03:56 <tomp> Hi CNC_Workshop ?? whats up with Z?
20:04:04 <CNC_Workshop> Wow does the stuff you worked up make a difference when trying to find stuff.
20:04:12 <CNC_Workshop> Z is up and running.
20:04:30 <CNC_Workshop> Brake drops out when axis enable comes on.
20:04:41 <CNC_Workshop> or aaxis inhibit goes off.
20:04:57 <tomp> I was pretty lost, I just left bread crumbs...
20:05:03 <CNC_Workshop> Roland and Mark completed the encoder drive stuff
20:05:19 <CNC_Workshop> We got it in place yesterday noon
20:05:48 <CNC_Workshop> We can read the spiindle encoder and build an orient ramp.
20:05:49 <alex_joni> so.. what's missing?
20:06:06 <CNC_Workshop> and can change gears.
20:06:33 <CNC_Workshop> I need to write the bash scripts to change gears using m101 and m102
20:07:17 <CNC_Workshop> Need to write a line in classic ladder to turn on hydraulics when we come out of estop
20:07:42 <CNC_Workshop> I need a connector between emc and hal for spindle speed command.
20:07:52 <tomp> wow, lemme see what your scripts look like.. will they wait for completion :-) ?
20:08:02 <tomp> dnag this sounds cool,
20:08:11 <tomp> dnag
20:08:20 <tomp> dnagdnag dang!
20:08:24 <alex_joni> CNC_Workshop: there is a connector between emc and hal for spindle speed
20:08:26 <CNC_Workshop> Everything that Jmk has done is in sf in the emc2 module.
20:08:36 <alex_joni> iocontrol does that
20:09:05 <tomp> hiya alex & thanks again fer help on CL
20:09:15 <CNC_Workshop> How can I link that so that HAL follows it?
20:09:20 <alex_joni> it exports a lot of spindle speed related pins, just take the one you need and connect it to your speed control module
20:09:28 <alex_joni> CNC_Workshop: looking at the exact namings now
20:09:34 <alex_joni> what drives your spindle?
20:09:51 <CNC_Workshop> give me a minute.  just started looking at that file.
20:10:36 <alex_joni> I would suggest using iocontrol.0.spindle-speed
20:10:45 <alex_joni> I would suggest using iocontrol.0.spindle-speed-out
20:10:49 <CNC_Workshop> bin/halcmd sets spindle-rpm-cmd 1000
20:11:02 <alex_joni> ok.. that's a signal
20:11:08 <CNC_Workshop> will run the spindle at 1k
20:11:31 <alex_joni> connect that signal to iocontrol.0.spindle-speed-out
20:11:33 <CNC_Workshop> not sure that that starts it though.
20:11:59 <CNC_Workshop> Let me fire up an emc and issue that command in a terminal.
20:12:19 <alex_joni> looking at the mazak hals now
20:13:28 <alex_joni> ok.. connect these:
20:14:12 <alex_joni> linksp spindle-run iocontrol.0.spindle-on
20:14:44 <alex_joni> linksp spindle-rpm-cmd iocontrol.0.spindle-speed-out
20:15:09 <alex_joni> linksp spindle-at-speed iocontrol.0.spindle-speed-in
20:15:41 <alex_joni> that should give some minimal functionality
20:15:48 <alex_joni> but no safe testing though...
20:16:14 <alex_joni> doesn't test for spindle-ready...
20:16:19 <CNC_Workshop> about what line would I add these so that they fit with other stuff
20:17:20 <CNC_Workshop> I'm thinking I can test the spindle ready and all with cl and then enable these
20:17:55 <CNC_Workshop> but for right now I'd like to be able to run spindle knowing that it is up and ready.
20:18:17 <alex_joni> for testing: run emc (like till now)
20:18:26 <alex_joni> then issue the commands using bin/halcmd
20:18:33 <alex_joni> the from tkemc switch spindle on
20:18:36 <alex_joni> and test speed
20:19:23 <tomp> lame Q: I went to SF, where do I look for "Everything that Jmk has done is in sf in the emc2 module."?
20:20:07 <alex_joni> CVS
20:20:15 <CNC_Workshop> I'm thinking about line 379 in .hal
20:20:17 <tomp> thanx
20:20:33 <alex_joni> tomp: or alternative: get it from http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/~emc/
20:20:37 <alex_joni> updated once / day
20:20:45 <tomp> thnanx
20:20:51 <CNC_Workshop> The most of it is in configs directory mazak-rf.*
20:20:53 <alex_joni> might be easier :)
20:21:06 <alex_joni> ray: let me know if it works
20:21:10 <alex_joni> and how it behaves
20:21:42 <alex_joni> might want to connect the spindle speed set and feedback to a PID component
20:21:52 <alex_joni> to do precise speed
20:23:51 <CNC_Workshop> Okay.
20:24:06 <CNC_Workshop> I've got hydraulics up
20:26:03 <CNC_Workshop> I can move some of the actuators
20:27:23 <CNC_Workshop> I'm missing something spindle enable I suspect.
20:27:54 <CNC_Workshop> No spindle enable is pulled in.
20:28:05 <alex_joni> when you select spindle forward in TkEMC it should send iocontroller.0.spindle-on
20:28:22 <alex_joni> how does spindle-ready look?
20:28:29 <alex_joni> maybe you got some conditions not met?
20:31:40 <CNC_Workshop> Jmk was working with ladder this am and I'm not certain what he did.
20:31:50 <CNC_Workshop> I guess I'd better read a bit.
20:33:01 <CNC_Workshop> I see some links between high and low gear and cl
20:35:38 <alex_joni> hmm
20:36:08 <CNC_Workshop> I see that we need z brake to turn on before enable turns off.
20:36:25 <CNC_Workshop> Now that the quill is getting oiled it drops pretty fast.
20:37:08 <CNC_Workshop> restarting with the three links in .hal
20:37:30 <CNC_Workshop> HAL: ERROR: type mismatch 'iocontrol.0.spindle-speed-in' <- 'spindle-at-speed'
20:37:30 <CNC_Workshop> HAL config file mazak_rf.hal failed.
20:38:46 <tomp> do you need to >type< the 'linksp command ( like BIT) ?
20:39:49 <alex_joni> hang on a sec
20:41:16 <alex_joni> try without that one
20:41:39 <CNC_Workshop> I see the bit definitions in the newsig section.
20:42:04 <CNC_Workshop> tomp: got a mail address I can forward these files.
20:42:20 <tomp> tomp-tag@sbcglobal.net
20:42:32 <alex_joni> or replace with spindle-amps
20:42:39 <alex_joni> I think that's supposed to be the feedback
20:43:05 <alex_joni> spindle-at-speed is just a bit that says that speed has been reached
20:44:03 <tomp> yeash, try without that sense input, we dont care right now
20:44:07 <alex_joni> first I thought it's smthg else
20:45:15 <CNC_Workshop> brb
20:54:05 <alex_joni> this axes stuff is really messed up :/
20:54:31 <alex_joni> * alex_joni can't wait to get a grip on jmk and figure it out
21:07:23 <alex_joni> CNC_Workshop: any luck on the spindle?
21:11:45 <CNC_Workshop> Had to visit for a few.
21:12:04 <CNC_Workshop> jmk said he wouldn't be on line till tomorrow.
21:12:08 <alex_joni> ok..
21:12:16 <alex_joni> will drop him an email.. probably
21:12:20 <CNC_Workshop> tomp: just sent the fiile.
21:12:46 <CNC_Workshop> I'll do a bunch of reading here and then try it again.  Thanks for the hints.
21:14:55 <alex_joni> no problem
21:15:09 <alex_joni> seems it's pretty down in the code (the problem I stumbled upon)
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21:16:09 <clarke.freenode.net> topic is: "Mazak EMC retrofit.  X and Y homing and moving nicely.  Spindle drive works too. Working on Z now."
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21:16:30 <alex_joni> bbl
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21:38:31 <tomp> ray, got the mail, off to read it
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