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00:23:09 <rayh> Hey.  Hi Roland.
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00:28:45 <jmk_mazak> hi pete
00:28:53 <petev> hi
00:28:59 <rayh> hi pete.  Thanks for the pointers.
00:29:04 <petev> no problem
00:30:41 <jmk_mazak> * jmk_mazak is thinking of enhancements for CL
00:31:03 <jmk_mazak> like each element should have a property "name" that could be set to something meaninful
00:31:13 <jmk_mazak> later ;-)
00:31:25 <petev> yeah, that would be nice
00:31:45 <petev> just take a look at the GUI code though and you may re-consider wanting to make any changes
00:31:55 <petev> I cleaned it up a lot, but it still needs serious help
00:35:54 <jmk_mazak> yeah
00:36:31 <jmk_mazak> I was hoping the existing properties dialog had most of the required code (I'm not much of a GUI guy myself)
00:36:40 <jmk_mazak> have to look into it later
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00:58:05 <rayh> http://membres.lycos.fr/mavati/classicladder/
00:58:17 <rayh> Some example screen shots
01:07:40 <jmk_mazak> ClassicLadder has just done it's first relay clicking on the Mazak!!! Woot!
01:08:10 <anonimasu> congratulations!
01:08:44 <jmk_mazak> click the ESTOP button on the EMC GUI, the machine power turn on, then CL waits one sec, turns on a relay to precharge the DC supply caps, then another second and it turns on a contactor to bypass the resistors
01:09:18 <anonimasu> :)
01:10:15 <alex_joni> ditto
01:10:17 <alex_joni> nice
01:10:46 <jmk_mazak> now I gotta figure out how to make it load the program automatically
01:11:07 <jmk_mazak> thought I had that right, but it doesn't seem to have worked, so I loaded it manually
01:22:19 <jmk_mazak> pete, you there?
01:26:09 <jmk_mazak> looking at the code, it seems that a ladder program isn't a single file, but a collection of files in a directory?
01:28:10 <petev> yes, sorry, I was on my other monitor
01:28:40 <jmk_mazak> when I saved my program, I specified a path, and it saved one file ( .clp) there
01:28:52 <jmk_mazak> trying to load the program by passing that filename isn't working
01:29:10 <jmk_mazak> so I looked at the code, and it expects a directory as an arg (it seems)
01:29:44 <petev> hmm, let me take a look
01:29:50 <petev> I know I tested the loading
01:30:02 <jmk_mazak> * jmk_mazak plants printfs in files.c:LoadProjectFiles ...
01:32:26 <petev> you know it looks like some of that code is from an older version of CL and I never updated it
01:32:47 <jmk_mazak> I assumed it was designed to support two file formats, old and new
01:32:53 <petev> the old stuff used to store the ladder logic in a bunch of files
01:33:07 <jmk_mazak> nasty
01:36:51 <petev> I think it may just take removing the check for it to be a directory
01:37:35 <petev> look on line 122 of classicladder.c
01:37:38 <jmk_mazak> that VerifyDirectory thing
01:38:12 <petev> yes, looks like the files.c code is ok and looks for a .clp extension
01:38:24 <petev> if not, it assumes old style dir with loads of files
01:39:57 <jmk_mazak> so do we care about support for "old style"?
01:40:17 <petev> I don't think so
01:40:44 <petev> mostly for loading old configs, but none should exist for use with emc
01:40:45 <jmk_mazak> if not, I might just rewrite VerifyDirectory to be VerifyFile, it would simply test for the existance of a file matching its arg
01:41:09 <petev> I think that would be ok
01:41:22 <petev> could delete some code in files.c too
01:46:44 <jmk_mazak> I'm gonna just add a new verify function for now, keep the old one until we have time for a more complete extraction of the old stuff
01:47:16 <jmk_mazak> that is crufty code
01:47:39 <jmk_mazak> strcpy(static buffer, user supplied arg) - classic buffer overflow
01:48:24 <petev> try strncpy
01:48:34 <petev> use sizeof() to limit
01:48:35 <jmk_mazak> yeah, thats what I normally do
01:49:41 <jmk_mazak> do you know what all the temp dir stuff is all about?
01:49:59 <petev> no
01:50:09 <jmk_mazak> you're no help at all ;-)
01:50:36 <jmk_mazak> hmm, I think I know now
01:51:10 <jmk_mazak> loading a new style file consists of splitting it into old style files in the temp dir, then invoking the old loader
01:51:25 <jmk_mazak> so old style support won't be going away for a while
01:51:26 <petev> oh, that's ugly
01:51:40 <jmk_mazak> yep
01:53:04 <jmk_mazak> you know, I think my problem is simply that I didn't specify the right path
01:53:11 <jmk_mazak> but there is no error detection whatsoever
01:53:27 <jmk_mazak> file doesn't exist, so what.., just keep going anyway
01:55:35 <petev> yeah, just looked at teh VerifyDirectorySelected() code and it checks for .clp too
01:55:50 <alex_joni> jmk_mazak: what time is it over there?
01:56:01 <jmk_mazak> 7:15 pm
01:56:08 <petev> little after 5
01:56:18 <alex_joni> nice.. it's 3:15 here
01:56:41 <alex_joni> am
01:57:26 <jmk_mazak> ouch
01:57:55 <alex_joni> I know I'm gonna regret staying up late in the morning :)
01:58:38 <jmk_mazak> this code would get really confused if you had a directory name ending in .clp, or a single file that didn't end that way
01:59:08 <petev> agreed
02:02:09 <jmk_mazak> seems the proper approach would be to stat() the file/dir name to decide what it is and how to treat it
02:02:37 <jmk_mazak> I think stat tells you if it's a dir
02:02:43 <jmk_mazak> yep
02:03:16 <jmk_mazak> so "verifySource(name) could test that name is either a regular file or a dir
02:03:26 <jmk_mazak> and later Load could decide how to process it
02:03:28 <jmk_mazak> both based on stat
02:04:06 <jmk_mazak> methinks I'm gonna do that.  what do you think?
02:07:59 <petev> sure, that would be best
02:12:26 <alex_joni> night guys..
02:12:35 <jmk_mazak> night alex
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19:42:03 <rayh> Wah.  We now have homing of sorts and full motion.
19:50:38 <anonimasu> :)
19:55:03 <rayh> working out the number of pulses per inch.
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20:09:19 <rayh> Okay we have a number for input scale.
20:09:33 <alex_joni> 12345.6 ?
20:09:40 <rayh> x has about 0.001 backlash
20:09:58 <rayh> 33865
20:10:27 <rayh> dead on with five inch travel.
20:11:01 <alex_joni> alex_joni has changed the topic to: This is the discussion channel about the emc retrofit of an Mazak. So far Axis X is working under emc control. Lots of wiring done already, still some to go.
20:11:11 <alex_joni> rayh: how does that sound?
20:11:53 <rayh> Sounds good to me.
20:12:19 <rayh> classic ladder is working great.
20:12:27 <rayh> as is the motion stuff.
20:12:28 <alex_joni> ok.. think you can change it if you want
20:12:38 <alex_joni> could you try that out?
20:12:45 <alex_joni> * alex_joni walks you through it
20:13:04 <alex_joni> first you need to Op yourself: /msg ChanServ OP #emc-mazak rayh
20:17:04 <alex_joni> then you need to use /topic "newtopic" to change it
20:23:50 <rayh> #emc-mazak rayh
20:24:10 <alex_joni> almost :)
20:25:01 <rayh>  /msg ChanServ OP #emc-mazak rayh
20:25:18 <alex_joni> exactly, but without the space at the beginning :)
20:25:27 <rayh> okay
20:25:37 <alex_joni> right
20:25:51 <alex_joni> now you can kick all of us out of here if you want :D
20:25:58 <alex_joni> kidding.. try /topic
20:25:58 <rayh> Oh now I'm red and at the top
20:26:09 <alex_joni> you are the chief now :P
20:26:09 <rayh> You're gone! <g>
20:26:20 <rayh> rayh has changed the topic to: "This is the discussion channel about the emc retrofit of an Mazak. So far Axis X is working under emc control. Lots of wiring done already, still some to go. ClassicLadder is working.
20:26:29 <alex_joni> yay
20:26:37 <rayh> So now how do I de op myself?
20:26:58 <alex_joni> send the same command to ChanServ, but with a '-' in front of rayh
20:27:06 <rayh> okay
20:27:17 <alex_joni> like this:  /msg ChanServ OP #emc-mazak -rayh
20:27:28 <alex_joni> sweet.. you got a hang of it :)
20:27:50 <rayh> Yes but remembering may be an issue at my age.
20:27:58 <alex_joni> you can ask any time
20:28:04 <rayh> I'll save those commands.
20:28:14 <alex_joni> logger_mzk, bookmark
20:28:14 <alex_joni> See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcmazak/2005-10-21#T20-28-14
20:28:20 <alex_joni> save this bookmark :)
20:28:24 <alex_joni> you go them all there
20:30:26 <alex_joni> rayh: you said you have homing.. not totally true :P
20:30:38 <alex_joni> index-pulse homing is missing :D
20:31:06 <rayh> Right.  That's the next thing we need to do.
20:31:18 <alex_joni> ok.. I wanna be there when you discuss that
20:31:29 <alex_joni> too bad it's so far away :/
20:31:50 <rayh> Perhaps we can have the discussion h;ere.
20:32:05 <alex_joni> would be nice.. can you ask john?
20:32:14 <alex_joni> not sure how much longer I can be awake :D
20:33:47 <rayh> We can save the essence of it for you.
20:33:57 <rayh> You do need some sleep.
20:34:12 <alex_joni> well. was planing to go to sleep in an hour or so
20:34:22 <alex_joni> will leave for a while, and check in later.. ok?
20:34:27 <rayh> I certainly appreciate all your help with this.
20:34:42 <alex_joni> I am fully confident that jmk will sort it out properly..
20:35:16 <alex_joni> but I thought it might be nice if I could lend a hand :)
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21:16:12 <niven.freenode.net> topic is: "This is the discussion channel about the emc retrofit of an Mazak. So far Axis X is working under emc control. Lots of wiring done already, still some to go. ClassicLadder is working.
21:16:12 <niven.freenode.net> Users on #emc-mazak: logger_mzk alex_joni anonimasu jmkasunich rayh steves_logging fenn @ChanServ 
21:21:36 <alex_joni> * alex_joni goes to bed
21:21:48 <alex_joni> night guys.. and let me know what you come up with
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