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00:37:52 <robin_z> meep?
00:38:02 <cradek> hello
00:38:39 <robin_z> so ... did I miss much?
00:38:50 <cradek> much what?
00:38:58 <robin_z> stuff
00:39:07 <cradek> guess not
00:39:26 <robin_z> im still thinking about what to control my sheet feeder with
00:39:38 <robin_z> commercail PLC or ??
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01:06:15 <bill20r3> * bill20r3 got his drivers
01:18:15 <jepler> bill2or3: which drivers did you buy?
01:21:39 <bill20r3> some used Centent 142's off ebay
01:22:00 <bill20r3> http://www.centent.com/cn0142.htm
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01:37:34 <cradek> hello
01:38:26 <jmkasunich> hi
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01:40:09 <skunkworks> logger_aj: bookmark
01:40:09 <skunkworks> See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-02-17#T01-40-09
01:41:02 <jmkasunich> hi skunkworks
01:41:28 <jmkasunich> just got online, I'm gonna try to investigate your problem with hal version mismatches
01:41:53 <cradek> hi skunkworks 
01:41:59 <cradek> glad to hear you got it working on another machine
01:42:28 <skunkworks> yes - it was painless
01:42:50 <skunkworks> I think it is still running if you want to get into it
01:42:59 <skunkworks> (it is at my work)
01:43:52 <jmkasunich> it works on another machine?  
01:44:02 <cradek> it works on *every other* machine
01:44:13 <jmkasunich> well, so much for duplicating it here
01:44:27 <cradek> he's using my binary packages, so everything is identical but the hardware
01:44:39 <skunkworks> I also have it installed on on a 700mhz that worked
01:45:08 <skunkworks> The one that broke is still installed and running
01:47:09 <skunkworks> I thought that you guys wanted to look it over and see if it is and odd hardware issue or something else
01:48:18 <jmkasunich> its gonna be really tough to get anywhere if I can't replicate it
01:49:11 <cradek> jmkasunich: skunkworks says you have ssh access to his broken machine
01:49:45 <jmkasunich> I do?
01:50:05 <skunkworks> cradek - what is an easy way to edit the emc2 ini files on ubuntu?  I found them but they must not have rights to edit.
01:50:14 <skunkworks> yes - we can try 
01:50:24 <cradek> skunkworks: the files in /etc/emc2/sample-configs are just that - samples
01:50:40 <cradek> to make a custom configuration, you need to copy a sample to your home directory and edit it there.
01:50:41 <jmkasunich> considering I've never used ssh outside my own house, I'll need help, but I'm willing to try
01:50:58 <cradek> after you do that, the config picker will find your new configurations when you start emc2.
01:51:25 <cradek> skunkworks: I didn't have your login/password - it was alex, can you send it to me in a private message?
01:51:36 <skunkworks> sure
01:51:43 <cradek> well not yours - whatever account you set up for us to use
01:51:44 <skunkworks> do you have the ip?
01:51:47 <cradek> no
01:51:53 <jmkasunich> should we take this to emc-devel?
01:51:58 <cradek> yes
01:54:25 <skunkworks> cradek - can you privat message me?
01:55:03 <cradek> I did
01:55:06 <cradek> don't you see it?
01:55:13 <cradek> ok got it
01:56:46 <cradek> there is now a TTT (true type tracer) debian package in the ubuntu repository
01:57:28 <cradek> crap, there's already an app with that name
02:02:57 <jepler> cradek: oops
02:03:07 <jepler> perhaps you can come up with another "t"?  "the true type tracer"?
02:03:16 <jepler> no hits for apt-cache search tttt.
02:04:14 <cradek> I'm going to call it truetype-tracer
02:04:30 <cradek> pretty descriptive, isn't it
02:05:22 <jepler> it needs a themeable gui
02:05:31 <cradek> hahaha
02:06:08 <jepler> it would be 'qttttt' for qt themeable true-type tracer
02:06:29 <jepler> or maybe you want a nice simple tcl front-end, ttttttk
02:06:34 <jepler> don't ask me to explain all the 't's
02:06:35 <cradek> there is now a truetype-tracer debian package in the ubuntu repository
02:06:51 <jmkasunich> and what is a true-type-tracer?
02:06:59 <jepler> jmkasunich: truetype to g-code converter
02:07:21 <jmkasunich> ah
02:08:27 <cradek> fwiw, also does truetype-to-dxf
02:24:21 <LawrenceG> Hi Chris
02:24:36 <cradek> hi
02:24:52 <LawrenceG> is your ttt package changed from your web site?
02:25:11 <cradek> yes, much, it has the changes you kindly sent me 
02:25:18 <cradek> I haven't updated the web site yet, but will
02:25:25 <LawrenceG> great... I'll give it a try
02:25:43 <skunkworks> cradek - where are the ini files that the pick program uses located then?
02:26:16 <cradek> ~/emc2/configs then /usr/local/etc/emc2/configs then /etc/emc2/sample-configs
02:26:23 <cradek> in that order
02:26:41 <cradek> so the easiest will be to copy one to emc2/configs/ in your home directory
02:27:22 <skunkworks> ok
02:27:38 <skunkworks> I will play with that tomorrow
02:27:42 <skunkworks> thanks
02:27:47 <cradek> welcome
02:28:37 <skunkworks> I did the axis sim and it came right up.  jogged around a bit and that was it.
02:29:15 <cradek> nice
02:29:22 <LawrenceG> cradek: cool.... took 1 sec to download deb for ttt
02:29:44 <cradek> yeah, it is NOT big
02:30:12 <cradek> oops I need to update README to reflect the new name
02:31:26 <LawrenceG> seems to be running just fine here.... 
02:31:35 <cradek> great
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12:45:12 <alex_joni> http://www.youtube.com/w/Multi-Touch%20Interaction%20Research?v=xvyjdWEHJJk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Foctopusdropkick%2Enet%2F%3Fp%3D1106
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13:01:31 <skunkworks> cradek: - are you awake?
13:02:41 <alex_joni> hi sam
13:02:43 <skunkworks> logger_aj: bookmark
13:02:43 <skunkworks> See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-02-17#T13-02-43
13:02:53 <skunkworks> Hi alex - how was the plane ride?
13:02:59 <alex_joni> pretty good
13:04:52 <alex_joni> skunkworks: hopefully this weekend me & jmk will look over that problem of yours
13:04:58 <alex_joni> I presume it's still there ;)
13:05:36 <skunkworks> go look at the history from the emc-devel - cadek and jmk spent a bunch of time on it last night 
13:06:35 <skunkworks> I went to bed but came in this morning and the machine was running memtest86 ;)
13:06:43 <alex_joni> oh, they did?
13:07:09 <skunkworks> they think it is a memory error but it looks like it has been running for 8 hours with no errors :(
13:11:53 <skunkworks> unless I am reading it wrong
13:15:40 <skunkworks> wow that was intense
13:15:55 <skunkworks> Cradeks reboot worked - impressive
13:16:46 <skunkworks> the mem test is still running - any one know how many steps it takes? it is on #8
13:17:45 <cradek> is it on test 8 or pass 8 (through all the tests?)
13:18:01 <skunkworks> it is running test 8 I think - morning 
13:18:05 <cradek> hi
13:18:18 <cradek> it would be nice if it would get through all the tests at least once before you stop
13:18:26 <skunkworks> no problem
13:18:35 <cradek> but even if it doesn't find anything, we'd like you to try different ram
13:18:48 <cradek> we're 100% sure there is something wrong with the hardware
13:18:54 <cradek> but that doesn't necessarily mean ram
13:19:03 <skunkworks> riiiiight - always blame the hardware or the user ;)
13:19:28 <cradek> actually we never do that without good reason, we spent a lot of time looking for the software bug!
13:19:49 <skunkworks> I saw that - read the history.  pretty intense
13:20:02 <cradek> the gcc crashes and kernel oopses mak me really sure it's hardware.
13:20:19 <cradek> I have to go - I'll be back in an hour or so
13:20:31 <skunkworks> pass 90%  test 52%
13:20:43 <skunkworks> it will end?
13:20:44 <cradek> ah, so it's almost done with a pass, good
13:20:54 <cradek> no it will go forever
13:21:00 <skunkworks> ok
13:21:10 <cradek> there are many tests, you want to hit all of them if possible before you stop
13:21:25 <cradek> (it takes a long time with so much ram)
13:21:26 <skunkworks> I can let it run - no problem
13:21:41 <skunkworks> let me know when you want it to stop
13:22:06 <cradek> after a pass or two, there's not much point in letting it run longer
13:22:42 <cradek> we'd like to have memtest results as confirmation that there's a problem with the system, but even if it doesn't agree, we still think so!
13:23:29 <skunkworks> it must have a 1gb chip and a 512mb chip
13:23:43 <cradek> you could also try taking out one at a time
13:23:45 <cradek> ok gotta go
13:23:49 <skunkworks> bye
13:26:10 <skunkworks> hey - could it be something like the shared video memory in this thing?
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17:09:17 <bill2or3> blech shared.
17:32:49 <giacus> try to search :
17:32:53 <giacus> http://images.google.cn/images?svnum=10&hl=zh-CN&lr=&cr=countryCN&q=dalai+lama
17:33:21 <giacus> and after ..
17:33:47 <giacus> http://images.google.it/images?q=dalai+lama&hl=it&btnG=Cerca+immagini
17:33:54 <giacus> look at the diff ..
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18:08:19 <sam_> holy crap - you guys did some nice work.  Playing on the 1.8ghz machine and a period of .00002 is very usable.  (.00001 isn't ;)
18:13:18 <sam_> that would give me the option of 600ipm on z ;)
18:13:58 <sam_> oops - I actually mean 150ipm
18:14:13 <sam_> still - that is probably faster than it will actually go
18:14:45 <bill2or3> 600 is lots.
18:14:45 <bill2or3> heh
18:15:44 <sam_> multiplied when I ment to divide ;)
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18:17:50 <sam_> alex?
18:17:56 <sam_> are you there? 
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18:22:39 <sam_> Cradek: ?
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19:03:19 <dmessier> Hello all
19:04:17 <A-L-P-H-A> hey fellow durhamian.
19:04:34 <dmessier> whats up ALPHA
19:04:50 <A-L-P-H-A> digesting a roti I ate an hour ago.
19:05:09 <dmessier> i ditched work early.. havin a pint
19:05:14 <A-L-P-H-A> nice
19:05:23 <dmessier> and some veggies
19:05:25 <A-L-P-H-A> i should put a couple of beers into my fridge.
19:05:54 <dmessier> man you should see the changes in my plce of work...
19:06:20 <A-L-P-H-A> ?
19:07:08 <dmessier> we now have a Quick Rsponse Team (QRT) .. red shirt trouble shooting brigade.... i was subconded..sp??
19:07:18 <dmessier> response
19:07:24 <A-L-P-H-A> subconded?
19:07:29 <A-L-P-H-A> subcontracted.
19:07:30 <A-L-P-H-A> ?
19:07:55 <dmessier> donated... offered up as sacraficial lamb.... however you say it...
19:08:28 <A-L-P-H-A> you were subcontracted?
19:09:00 <A-L-P-H-A> you were tossed to someone that was willing to pay your co. to pick you up?
19:09:49 <dmessier> no im on contract any way.... but i dont get to do what i used to do... and i must wear a RED shirt... we provide 3 shift support to the machine shop and production dept
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22:15:45 <kornbluth.freenode.net> Users on #emc: logger_aj Jymmm skunkworks @ChanServ dmessier rayh acemi giacus A-L-P-H-A ValarQ_ alex_joni SWPadnos steves_logging les_w Telefunken ccjoe robin_z LawrenceG picnet jepler robin cradek jtr_ fenn zwisk CIA-8 bill2or3 
22:22:29 <skunkworks> dead again
22:23:23 <Jymmm> seems that way
22:23:35 <giacus> uhm
22:23:55 <giacus> jyyyyymmmm
22:23:57 <giacus> :d
22:23:59 <Jymmm> But, if you start talking about how suck the new code is, they'll come out of the woodwork!
22:24:18 <giacus> Jymmm: any new job ? 
22:24:34 <skunkworks> actually I was playing with emc2 earlier - it just gets better and better.
22:24:37 <SWPadnos> Jymmm is teh suxx0rz
22:24:41 <giacus> is you cnc machining ?
22:25:17 <skunkworks> just on a test machine - playing with how fast I can make it go.
22:25:48 <giacus> skunkworks: how much ?
22:27:09 <skunkworks> mathmatically it looks like I could run x and y at 550ipm and z 150ipm
22:27:29 <skunkworks> I don't think the mechanics will do that though
22:27:34 <Jymmm> 550IPM ?!
22:27:34 <skunkworks> but the headroom is nice
22:27:44 <SWPadnos> what diameter are your screws?
22:28:00 <skunkworks> x and y are about 1.25
22:28:15 <Jymmm> skunkworks whats the travel?
22:28:19 <SWPadnos> ok.  those shuldn't be longer than about 60 inches then
22:28:33 <skunkworks> 5 feet ;)
22:28:36 <SWPadnos> heh
22:31:04 <skunkworks> period of .00002 
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22:38:15 <bill2or3> bleh.
22:38:20 <bill2or3> apparently spindles are complicated.
22:38:53 <robin_z> meep?
22:39:01 <robin_z> hey, watch out for this scam thats going around the supermarkets at the moment .. two girls offer to pack your bags and carry them in exchange for a lift to another nearby shop, once in your car one of them gives you a blow-job, afterwards you are so distracted, you fail to notice they steal your shopping whne they get out. A nasty trick indeed.
22:39:16 <robin_z> I fell for it last Tuesday
22:39:19 <robin_z> wednesday
22:39:21 <robin_z> friday
22:39:25 <robin_z> and twice on saturday
22:47:17 <Jymmm> lol
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23:38:38 <giacus> G night
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