00:00:14 at least for 70 sec. 00:00:17 :) 00:00:30 then your batteries will glow 00:00:43 this model has a input of 1KW 00:01:11 heh, wait .. im still watching the madflight video :) 00:01:19 the guy flying that? ... 00:01:20 where you mention cameras.. 00:01:26 sure 00:01:34 did he practice all morning to learn that? ;) 00:01:35 he has the remote controll 00:01:42 he a natural 00:01:47 too tight 00:01:48 *he's* 00:01:49 right 00:01:53 too right 00:02:08 i love the music too 00:02:31 a guy at our university build a very interesting thing to make 360° Photos 00:02:40 I saw a helicopter guy once, hovered it up and walked to the display are, model hovering backwards in frotn of him, just like it was a balloon on a stick 00:02:51 who is the music? 00:03:00 sounds like evanescence 00:03:19 mantikor_: what would I need to get one of those thingies ;) 00:03:31 I imagine plane, motor, control, remote? 00:04:29 it is 00:05:16 yes 00:05:34 Ive done a bit with gliders, but nothing electric or powered inplanes 00:05:46 RC boats I have done ... they are fun 00:05:48 have you ever seen real 4D flying with a remote controlled helicopter? 00:05:54 check this one out: 00:05:56 http://tinyurl.com/9dnfb 00:06:01 just uploading i 00:06:05 it* 00:06:35 heli always scred me ... too many bendy bits to break off 00:06:43 expensive bits too 00:06:49 yes you need a model, the remote controll, batteries, a charger, a propulsion and some effort 00:07:06 mantikor_: any place I can get a kit? 00:07:19 you won't belive your eyes if you watch that heli video 00:07:29 aff-cnc.de 00:07:40 nice 00:07:55 for the remote cotnrol, use ebay :) 00:07:58 the only really good laser-cuted or milled wood kits 00:08:01 yes 00:08:08 you can also buy planes there 00:08:09 lots of nice Futaba gear for very little money 00:08:17 right 00:08:40 but to learn building and flying i recommend you a wood-kit 00:08:55 that heli is half way between being flown and crashing ... 00:09:14 wood is nice ... but destrys easy when crashed 00:09:21 what is gravity? ;) 00:09:34 not if your model is light 00:09:38 true 00:09:43 and if it has carbon parts 00:09:47 ahh :) 00:10:04 thats what the libelle or callistic is about 00:10:19 high performance and slow enough to learn flying 00:10:41 I always fancied hot-wire foam ... soem foam, a hot wire and a make man, many free-flight models for my kids 00:11:00 i did that years ago yes 00:11:20 but to build in cnc-milled molds is way better for high performance planes 00:11:44 shall i upload a high-performance plane video? 00:11:59 climbs vertical -> 70m/sec 00:12:20 acceleration is less that 1,4sec to 100 km/h 00:12:45 that is all real crazy shit 00:12:55 and it fascinates me 00:12:59 :) 00:13:26 he guys 00:13:35 heh 00:13:39 thank you very much for your time and all advices 00:13:44 the pilot is Hungarian? 00:13:57 i don't know 00:14:02 Szabo ... 00:14:11 sounds like 00:14:15 right 00:14:15 * robin_sz nods ... 00:14:18 crazy 00:14:25 isn't he? 00:14:32 but .. we knew that already :) 00:14:34 he's even more a natural 00:14:41 but more a robot 00:14:44 ;) 00:15:07 unbeliveable how a human beeing can stear like that 00:15:32 it hard to keep the left/right correct as it goes forward, back 00:15:41 but inverted .. 00:15:44 and spining> 00:15:46 ?? 00:15:52 mind would explode 00:15:53 and on the back... 00:17:52 i will enclose my whole collection of rc-modell videos to your gift 00:18:01 if you don't mind 00:18:51 :) 00:18:59 let me see what i can do for you :) 00:19:12 ok, one last one before i go to bed 00:20:40 http://tinyurl.com/b3m7s 00:20:48 thats a 22mb file 00:21:00 needs 15min for upload 00:21:25 12 min left 00:23:14 ? might have ... 00:23:18 might have 00:23:20 robin_sz has quit 00:24:03 nice to talk to you all 00:24:06 good n8 00:24:10 mantikor_ has quit 00:29:14 TorbaX has quit 00:32:15 asdfqwega has quit 00:35:46 skunkworks has joined #emc 00:35:54 robin_sz has joined #emc 00:36:02 bah ... silly internet 00:36:09 roltek has quit 00:36:26 logger_aj: bookmark? 00:36:26 See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-02-05#T00-36-26 00:37:07 is that automated? 00:37:42 logger_aj: bookmark? 00:37:42 See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-02-05#T00-37-42 00:37:44 cool 00:37:54 logger_aj: help 00:38:41 alex_joni: is logger_aj java ? 00:38:48 no, perl 00:38:57 nice 00:38:58 bye all.. I'm off to bed 00:39:03 night 00:39:07 Hey - I just installed the latest emc build 00:39:12 emc2 00:39:14 night 00:39:17 night 00:39:22 emc2 deb? 00:39:27 k4ts has quit 00:39:44 skunkworks: deb? cvs? or tgz? 00:39:45 I did a -Dp 00:39:53 oh, cvs.. nice 00:39:58 I'm really off now 00:40:06 It runs quit a bit slower 00:40:26 I was running a period of .00005 - 00:40:58 I had to up that quite a bit - .0006 was "ok" but I will probably need to increase that 00:41:44 suprised me - It has probably been a month sence I had updated it 00:42:56 it went from 50uS to 600uS?!? 00:43:08 sorry - no .00006 00:43:17 I alwas miss a zero 00:43:40 beats me why we cant just have "60us" ... 00:44:08 yeah, that is annoying 00:44:19 hi john :) 00:44:33 heh - submit a feature request, maybe we can do that for release 2.2 00:44:36 hi robin 00:45:00 anybody here remember the magic incantation to burn an iso using cdrecord? 00:45:06 oops, gotta run, back in a few 00:45:07 this is still on a 450mhz - might just have to update the computer? 00:45:12 not me 00:45:18 'k 00:45:37 * robin_sz downloads some more evanesence tracks 00:46:13 I shall play that next time I go skiing. 00:46:26 I shall most certainly NOT play that whislt driving! 00:48:03 jmkasunich: to burn a cd ? 00:48:16 just light one corner? 00:49:15 cdrecord -scanbus 00:49:22 to find the device 00:50:30 cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=48 -data /path/to/iso 00:50:36 or something .. 00:50:53 sounds familiar 00:51:00 I should write these things down 00:51:56 it may turn on/off burnfree, depend on your cd writer .. 00:59:29 im afraid I my only cd burner is in a doze machine ... 00:59:34 I use Roxio on that 01:10:55 K, bed calls me .. 01:10:58 Night 01:11:02 night 01:11:14 giacus is now known as giacus_afk 01:15:49 crikey why is it every time i do or think about something.. someone else is talking about it on irc 01:16:18 * fenn is screwing around with authoring DVD's 01:16:29 robin_sz has quit 01:17:56 boing 01:23:37 SWPadnos has joined #emc 01:24:51 hi SWPadnos 01:24:55 h ithere 01:24:59 no - wait 01:25:00 hi there 01:25:04 how's that? :) 01:25:11 SWPadnos: sound allright 01:25:17 phew 01:25:29 SWPadnos: whats up ? still getting your puter out of idle ? 01:25:35 kind of 01:26:01 I'll probably break down and buy VMWare, or wait long enough for QEMU networking to get fixed :) 01:26:02 what does uptime say about load average ? 01:26:09 well - O 01:26:20 well - I'd have to boot the machine to tell you ;) 01:26:21 well, muhc to do 01:26:32 hmmm 01:26:55 SWPadnos: why do you shut down ? 01:27:22 because I don't want to leave the machine consuming power when I'm not using it 01:27:43 hmmm 01:28:02 SWPadnos: what do you have the machnine for ? 01:28:25 It's for a specific project, which hasn't really started yet 01:28:53 also, most of my development software runs on Windows, so I still use my old machine 01:28:55 (like now) 01:30:35 what bug did you find in the qemu networking ? 01:30:58 it doesn't work on that machine 01:31:47 if you got the lists and faqs threw, send abugreport 01:31:51 good night 01:31:55 cncuser has quit 01:31:56 I will 01:47:53 jmkasunich has quit 01:55:09 acemi has quit 02:06:06 Sparky_ has joined #emc 02:12:34 skunkworks has quit 02:19:02 Greets everybody, Gene H. here 02:19:43 hi "Sparky_". 02:21:46 Hi, not much of an irc fan, just thought I'd lurk for a while to see if anything interesting goes by 02:22:50 Looking at the icons, I had assumed the dark ones were 'away' markers, and they all are, including me 02:23:32 So I guess I don't know a heck of a lot about the mozilla irc client. Nothing new :) 02:24:46 I'm sitting here trying to recall how I managed to do away with the once triggered it was forever joint error in emc2, but don't recall exactly what I changed now. 02:24:46 It may be a sign of "ops" 02:25:36 Ahh, maybe. I run a 1600x1200 screen, and it seriously needs bigger icons and fonts, this is like reading 4 point type. 02:26:11 I know how you feel 02:27:00 it's worst when browsing the web 02:27:00 dark = not op, light = op, italic/grayed name = away 02:27:07 Humm, now I seem to recall that I'd set the MAXVEL and MAX_ACCEL in the axis settings a lot higher than in the tp section, and things got a lot bettter behaved. 02:27:45 Apparently the axis stuff needs lots of headroom over the TP stuffs? 02:27:55 shouldn't 02:28:05 emc should use the lower of the two 02:28:18 (I think cradek fixed that a couple of months ago) 02:28:55 were you ever able to get the BASE_PERIOD down into reasonable range? 02:29:42 If I set the TP section stuffs to MAXVEL=,85, which is above the speeds atainable, and then set the axis stuff to .65, which is, then a joint error is a joint error for dezens of F2's 02:30:35 and if you set both the TP and axis sections to 0.65, what happens? 02:30:56 BASE_PERIOD, no, it freezes the box at about .000042, so I trun at 50 us. 02:31:16 this is a 2.53GHz celeron? (or is that someone else?) 02:31:30 axis errors are firever, or until the program is restarted. 02:31:52 No, XP1400 Althlon, running at 1400mhz 02:31:57 ok 02:32:01 damn typus 02:32:27 by the way - the Athlons are rated in "PR" ratings, not MHz, so the question about 1400 MHz vs. XP1800 is moot 02:32:35 an XP1800 should be at 1.4 or 1.5 GHz 02:32:43 (or thereabouts) 02:33:16 All bios and dmesg thonks its running at 1400mhz with about 2x that for bogomips 02:33:25 normal 02:33:43 I'm on an Athlon XP1800 right now, and it runs at 1.33 GHz, I believe 02:33:52 (or 1.533 - can't remember) 02:36:14 from its messages.0 file, last boot 02:37:06 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [4294667.296000] Initializing CPU#0 02:37:07 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [4294667.296000] Adeos 2.6r12/x86: Root domain Linux registered. 02:37:08 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [4294667.296000] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes) 02:37:10 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [ 0.000000] Detected 1396.897 MHz processor. 02:37:12 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [ 18.559587] Using tsc for high-res timesource 02:37:13 Jan 15 19:25:07 shop kernel: [ 18.559624] Console: colour dummy device 80x25 02:46:13 Later, when I'd started emc2, this was logged: 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:39 shop kernel: [91137.030395] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: timer=periodic (8254-PIT). 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:39 shop kernel: [91137.030399] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: standard tick=1000 hz, CPU freq=1193180 hz. 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:39 shop kernel: [91137.030404] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: timer setup=1676 ns, resched latency=2514 ns. 02:46:13 And a few lnes later, this: 02:46:13 jmkasunich2 has joined #emc 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398744] MOTION: init_threads() starting... 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398749] HAL: creating thread base-thread, 40000 nsec 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398793] HAL: thread created 02:46:13 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398798] HAL: creating thread servo-thread, 800000 nsec 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398806] HAL: thread created 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398810] HAL: creating thread traj-thread, 8000000 nsec 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398850] HAL: thread created 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398914] MOTION: setting Traj cycle time to 8000000 nsecs 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398920] MOTION: setting Servo cycle time to 800000 nsecs 02:46:14 Jan 16 20:43:40 shop kernel: [91137.398925] MOTION: init_threads() complete 02:46:14 which doesn't seem to follow the .ini file settings. 02:46:14 Oops, that the one that killed the machine, but this one only lagged awfull 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307380] HAL: creating thread base-thread, 45000 nsec 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307425] HAL: thread created 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307429] HAL: creating thread servo-thread, 900000 nsec 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307437] HAL: thread created 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307441] HAL: creating thread traj-thread, 9000000 nsec 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307485] HAL: thread created 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307554] MOTION: setting Traj cycle time to 9000000 nsecs 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307561] MOTION: setting Servo cycle time to 900000 nsecs 02:46:14 Jan 16 21:22:08 shop kernel: [93149.307565] MOTION: init_threads() complete 02:46:14 Hi John K. 02:46:14 hi 02:46:30 alex_jon1 has joined #emc 02:46:46 alex_jon1: you are supposed to be sleeping 02:46:53 alex_joni has quit 02:47:00 maybe he is 02:48:38 Awake? Whats that? I did a graveyard this morning at the transmitter but it was fine 02:49:23 Need caffiene, think I'll go make some tea, brb 02:55:04 back 02:56:33 The regular meeting is at 11 AM my time in EST? 03:04:31 Looking at the users map at frapper, I feel pretty lonesome, only user in WV. 03:05:33 but I do talk it up when I et a chance at the local machine shops. But it seems so much of their work is in onsies, repairs 03:06:13 I'll ee if I can remember to check in tomorrow, good night all 03:06:20 Sparky_ has left #emc 03:16:03 that guy sure talks a lot 03:20:14 03rayhenry * 10emc2/tcl/bin/halconfig.tcl: modify almost works. 03:22:33 rayh has quit 03:27:36 giacus_afk has quit 03:27:41 giacus_afk has joined #emc 03:28:50 lol @ fenn 03:37:48 Jymmm: hey... whats up? 04:29:39 jmkasunich2 has left #emc 04:32:19 jmkasunich has joined #emc 05:01:38 dmessier has quit 05:20:25 Ephexis has quit 05:25:17 jmkasunich has quit 06:41:16 jmkasunich has joined #emc 06:44:08 LawrenceG same ol same o =) 06:48:52 SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away 06:59:10 jmkasunich is now known as jmk_sleep 08:21:40 alex_jon1 is now known as alex_joni 12:01:43 giacus_afk is now known as giacus 12:02:25 G Sunday 12:05:10 cncuser has joined #emc 12:05:14 good morning 12:06:39 i did a cvs checkout of emc2 again. the same hang. the only errormessage ic is "glibc detected...double free or corruption (?prev):0x08078980 ... well, i know thats doesnt help much :) how can i make the output more verbose ? 12:21:17 hmmkay 12:21:23 in qmeu it works :) 12:21:38 maybe its really something with period 12:24:55 reduced base_period to 0.000050 12:29:04 cncuser has quit 13:01:46 acemi has joined #emc 13:06:08 robin_sz has joined #emc 13:15:40 cncuser has joined #emc 13:15:42 hmmm 13:16:14 does anyone have a 1 month old emc2 checkout ? 13:16:58 i want to see if i fucked up my environment or if really something changed in emc2 causing my hangs 13:17:42 cncuser: check out one 13:17:54 cvs co -d:10.01.2006 13:17:59 or something like that 13:18:27 alex_joni: ah i c. never did more then simple checkouts and updates with cvs 13:19:37 -d lets you select the date 13:19:59 it's very flexible (-d yesterday, -d last month, etc) if I remember it correctly 13:20:54 thanks :) 13:21:06 ok need to reboot 13:21:08 cu later 13:21:15 cncuser has quit 13:53:11 Imperator_ has joined #emc 13:53:30 morning Martin 13:53:36 bye Martin 13:53:36 ;) 13:53:40 * alex_joni goes away for a while 13:53:43 Hi Alex 13:53:48 cu 14:54:01 http://www.beppegrillo.it/eng/2006/02/media_war.html#comments 14:54:17 Wikipedia, the greatest encyclopaedia in the world, has disallowed access from the Congress of the United States. 15:10:43 rayh has joined #emc 15:10:50 good morning 15:10:59 hi jepler 15:11:01 morning jeff 15:11:11 hi chris 15:31:25 I got a request from Roland Freestad for an outline of what the EMC bunch want to do during cnc-workshop this year? 15:31:31 Got any suggestions? 15:33:11 not sure - I haven't been to one before 15:34:47 We have a 50x80 room full of machines just for us. 15:35:04 We'll have web and networking available. 15:35:36 The Mazak is there and will be available for testing. 15:35:43 Or running. 15:36:01 There are a couple of punch presses we could convert. 15:36:30 will this be before or after the emc2 release? That's the priority in my mind 15:36:56 long after. That should happen in the next week or so. 15:38:02 well that's good to know 15:40:14 There will be "lectures" throughout the week. 15:40:45 and a swap meet on Friday/Saturday. An auction of leftovers. 15:41:01 on Sunday I think. 15:41:22 is there a timetable online somewhere? 15:41:31 I have heard about this event only in passing so far 15:42:12 It was a lot of fun last year. Sorta experimental and a lot of unexpected twists. 15:42:31 yeah it sounds fun 15:42:54 an obvious thing to do is get emc2 running as much stuff as possible there. 15:43:03 I'm thinking of working up handouts for HAL and CL 15:43:12 and EMC2 15:43:28 something about CL would be nice 15:43:40 what's the date? 15:43:45 Present each using a projector so folk can see changes. 15:44:00 May something. www.cnc-workshop.com 15:46:28 yikes I have to pay to get in? 15:48:45 - Mail payment to: [broken image] 15:49:00 ok maybe not then 15:50:15 rayh: having been to the last one, you have a much better idea of what we could do 15:50:50 The day is pretty much ours. We have access to all kinds of machinery to make retrofit parts. 15:51:25 Last year I was planning on spending full time on the mazak but about 25 folk wanted me to tell them about the emc. 15:51:40 So mornings were taken up with lecture demo. 15:51:49 afternoons were taken up with the mazak. 15:52:25 I know of at least one fellow who plans to bring a desktop mill for retrofit. 15:52:37 servos with a m5i20 card 15:53:11 how many ubuntu CDs did you order? 15:53:33 I'm thinking that this would be a good time to get the NML ready for handwheel and real buttons for cycle start and such. 15:53:57 5 but for the integrationFest we should get a hundred. 15:54:54 I'd think we could work with anyone who brings a pc to install emc2. 15:55:06 sure, that would be great 15:55:21 And in small groups to retrofit various "small" projects. 15:55:40 I think the mazak was a bit ambitious -- and I take the blame for that. 15:56:18 seems like it was a good project but you just didn't have enough time. 15:56:31 Yep. 15:56:46 And I arrived with the idea of using most of the existing wiring. 15:56:51 Which was a total bust. 15:57:35 With a machine like that you have to plan on bringing most of the drives and IO up to date. 15:57:43 rather than trying to use the existing. 15:58:02 It turned out that mazak built at least three versions of the machine 15:58:25 and the one we got was a lot different from the one DaveE has. 15:59:11 But now we have a spindle encoder, servo dynamics drives and a lot of abilities that the original did not have. 15:59:43 so is it done? 16:00:06 There are two G&L mills in the room where we will be. 16:01:11 x travel > 8' y travel > 3' and z >5' if someone wants to tackle something like that. 16:01:21 One has a major tool changer also. 16:01:50 yikes 16:02:12 That would give us a chance to prove that EMC scales well. 16:04:51 Ephexis has joined #EMC 16:27:07 jepler_ has joined #emc 16:28:36 jepler has quit 16:28:40 jepler_ is now known as jepler 17:20:29 hello all 17:24:01 did the mazak eventually run? 17:24:09 in a production useful way? 17:24:21 I know it got close 17:24:40 We still have a ways to go for automatic tool change. 17:24:46 right 17:24:54 I thought that would be a show stopper 17:24:59 too many stubs in emc 17:25:11 Hold a button till you get to the right carousel pocket and it's good to go. 17:25:16 I forget, did you emc1 or emc2 it? 17:25:22 emc2 17:25:27 and there are no show stoppers. 17:25:37 in emc2 id agreee 17:25:52 in emc1 toolchange was never really done 17:26:06 but Johns HAL stuff shold make it a snap in emc2 17:26:10 Sure it was. It ran on the k&t. 17:26:10 emc2 & CL took care of most of the logic in emc2 17:26:26 robin_sz: in emc1 it was more hardcoded 17:26:31 in emc2 it's more flexible 17:26:39 if it's flexible enough is still to be proven 17:27:15 I saw lots of "not there" bits when I looked at emc1 just stubs in various palces 17:27:25 but, yeah emc2 is very capabale 17:28:20 so overall the mazak was a success then 17:28:55 robin_sz: it improved emc2 a lot 17:29:01 and the other way around 17:29:02 :D 17:29:11 yeah 17:29:31 its amazing how the best thouht out things suddenly need a rework when you put them into practice 17:29:45 lol, indeed that's right 17:30:17 the handwheel sounded very kewl though 17:30:44 Roland built a encoder drive and spindle orient works better than it did before. (it didn't before) 17:30:56 right 17:30:59 Geer change works 17:31:06 or is that gear change 17:31:07 I remember now, someone had removed it or soemsuch 17:31:31 They replaced the mits spindle drive with an aftermarket 17:31:48 then cobbled up a bunch of relays to orient. 17:32:00 but it wouldn't. 17:32:13 well within about 30 degrees 17:32:17 it would. 17:32:33 made some pretty gouges in the tool holders, 17:32:57 jmk got it within 1/4 of a degree every time. 17:33:23 I just didn't get the carousel completed. Will do that in a couple of weeks. 17:33:54 The ATC tool commands are all in the HAL 17:34:03 just need to CL it 17:36:25 We do need to build a reverse path from HAL into some of the EMC NML like cycle start and feedrate override. 17:37:12 that's the vcp path I think 17:37:16 and add a few things like handwheel, handwheel multiplier, and connect handwheel to axis # 17:37:40 This isn't virtual at all. 17:37:56 then the other component.. 17:37:57 so if it's a vcp then we should name that better. 17:38:15 or maybe extend iocontrol with signals that go the other way 17:38:20 jepler has quit 17:39:09 Right or write a emccontrol 17:39:19 halemccontrol ;) 17:39:53 something like that. 17:44:56 awfully quiet today 17:50:59 bbl 17:51:10 rayh is now known as rayh-away 17:51:25 jmk_sleep is now known as jmkasunich 17:56:37 lerman has joined #emc 18:03:46 skunkworks has joined #emc 18:12:00 lerman_ has joined #emc 18:12:10 jmk? 18:12:17 dats' me 18:12:22 samco 18:12:24 Hi 18:12:43 question 18:13:34 lerman has quit 18:13:43 lerman_ is now known as lerman 18:13:55 skunkworks: shoot 18:14:15 do you know what changed within the last month that slowed emc2 down? (pentium II 450) and would a faster computer help - when I goofed around with a faster computer before it didn't seem to help (the period had to be about the same) 18:14:41 Now I am running a period of .00007 vs .00005 which slows my rapids a bit 18:14:49 steppers 18:14:50 nothing changed.. what config are you using? 18:15:07 did you try to checkout an month old CVS and see if it's still faster? 18:15:16 I had installed over the top of what was there. 18:15:23 I can do that 18:15:35 how would I check out a month old one 18:15:47 check out to a new directory using: 18:16:12 next to nothing has been changed in the realtime code recently, most effort has been concentrated on configuration and config management 18:16:15 cvs co -d 01.01.2006 18:16:29 Thanks 18:16:32 not quite... 18:16:40 you should preserve your existing checkout 18:16:44 so go up one level 18:17:00 I said "to a new directory" 18:17:27 then you can't just do cvs co, you need the whole long line with -d:pserver:blahblah 18:17:34 yup 18:17:41 Ok 18:17:52 and you should have an option in there to set the directory, it defaults to emc2 18:17:57 and probably my -d date wasn't very foolproof, but I trust you find the answer in man ;) 18:18:03 -d dir ;) 18:18:07 -d date 18:18:18 but one goes before co, the other after 18:18:27 can't recall which is which 18:18:27 the lates install gives you a blurp saying that "to run in place use .... command" 18:18:29 :P 18:18:31 that worked for me 18:18:41 after the make 18:18:46 skunkworks: only root permissions were changed 18:18:50 ok 18:18:55 now emc2 isn't run as root anymore 18:19:29 jepler has joined #emc 18:19:44 could it be the latest axis? I could run the stock interface also to see. 18:20:01 that would be surprizing, but not impossible 18:20:15 unlikely 18:20:23 what distro are you running? BDI-something? 18:20:24 axis is user-space, as is any GUI 18:20:26 I just need to find time to play with it some more 18:20:29 bdi 4.3 18:20:35 4.30 I hope 18:20:42 4.30 you mean? 18:20:46 right 18:21:11 sorry - I know there is a 4.38 out - I am using 4.30 18:22:13 the numbering is 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4----4.9 4.10 4.11, 4.12, etc, so .3 != .30 ;-) 18:23:07 my mistake - 4.30 I get lasy typing 18:23:14 skunkworks: no biggie 18:23:21 it is kinda strange, with numbers, 4.9 is a lot higher than 4.10, but with versions its lower ;-) 18:23:35 confusing 18:23:50 should have been called 4.09 18:24:09 that only works if you think you'll have <= 99 releases 18:24:15 yeah 18:24:26 you can call them 08, 09, 0A, 0B .. 18:25:44 cradek - how do I install the axis-1.1-1.1.1.patch 18:26:33 skunkworks: assuming you already have a 1.1 tree, you just apply the patch and rebuild 18:26:45 yes 18:26:48 ...... 18:27:02 I have only applied a patch once 18:27:07 a long time ago 18:27:14 try patch -p0 or -p1 18:27:46 thank - I will try that 18:27:46 or download the new tarball instead 18:27:52 or I can do that 18:27:53 ;) 18:27:59 downloading 1.1.1 is probably better 18:28:26 I have it - just did not appy the patch yet 18:28:29 I know that for the 1.2 development cycle, the patches are not dependable, because updates frequently change binary files, and those differences aren't shown in diffs... 18:28:48 I don't think there are any such cases going from 1.1 to 1.1.1, though. 19:03:33 Sparky_ has joined #emc 19:03:49 Hi all 19:04:43 Alex, can you tell me where the bdi list has moved to? 19:04:54 google for bdi4emc 19:06:31 it's the first several hits 19:06:57 ourproject smthg 19:08:42 Got it, send sub request, thanks. 19:09:26 How is emc2 coming along? 19:11:05 great 19:11:49 giacus has quit 19:12:50 I did a cvs up -dP and rebuilt friday a week ago, should I do a fresh cvs up now? 19:14:16 Sparky_: there have been quite a few check-ins to emc2 in the last 10 days 19:14:26 giacus has joined #emc 19:15:25 Sparky_: You can easily see the changes and their check-in messages on my experimental site: http://axis.unpy.net/gitweb.cgi?p=emc.git;a=shortlog 19:15:46 Ok, I'l go do a fresh pull then. I'd tried to play with subroutines but the example script errors before it gets to the sub stuffs 19:15:56 brb after I do that. 19:18:23 dmessier has joined #emc 19:20:14 Unforch, make errors instantly with: 19:20:32 shop:/home/gene/emc2# chown -R gene:users * 19:20:34 shop:/home/gene/emc2# cd src 19:20:36 shop:/home/gene/emc2/src# su gene 19:20:37 gene@shop:~/emc2/src$ make 19:20:39 chmod +x ../scripts/emc 19:20:40 chmod +x ../scripts/realtime 19:20:42 chmod: cannot access `../scripts/realtime': No such file or directory 19:20:43 make: *** [all] Error 1 19:20:45 when trying as the user gene 19:20:53 Sparky_: did you run ./configure first? 19:21:00 you didn't run configure 19:21:04 Sparky_: scripts/emc is created from scripts/emc.in by configure 19:21:08 duh! Brb 19:21:23 strange way of going about things, to su from root to user to build... 19:22:03 now its cooking along 19:22:10 oh good 19:22:37 Well, I logged in as root with an ssh -X from hhere, which means I was root there. 19:22:42 oh, I see 19:23:25 I'm going to have to make a script out of that I guess :) 19:23:35 "ssh -l gene -X ..." ? 19:23:59 Otherwise the old fart tends to forget those little details, darnit... 19:24:21 in ~/.ssh/config you can set the username you use when logging in 19:24:39 I'm not sure if gene is allowed from the network, haven't tried TBT 19:25:01 gene should always be allowed, it's more likely root isn't 19:25:16 The block of lines in ~/.ssh/config would look like this: 19:25:17 Host example 19:25:17 User gene 19:25:17 ForwardX11 yes 19:25:29 Yeah, but thats universal & shop isn't the only box here. I ned root to do things on the firewall. 19:25:31 Once you get that right, you also don't have to remember "-X" every time 19:26:05 Humm, ISTR I forgot that and it didn't work one day last week. 19:27:16 Which might have been me, X11Forwarding seems to come and go with the phase of the moon or which side you keep your chaw of redman on. 19:27:27 But then I don't chew, so thats out. 19:28:45 Humm, new message at the end of the make, an odd place for it considering its contents: 19:28:50 ######################################################## 19:28:51 # If you intend to run-in-place (without make install) # 19:28:53 # don't forget to run: sudo make setuid # 19:28:54 ######################################################## 19:29:07 that's exactly the right place for it 19:29:14 if it were at the beginning, nobody would read it 19:29:32 Are you saying I should make clean and do it again 19:29:41 no, you should do that command now 19:29:56 ottos has joined #emc 19:30:18 hmm I see what you mean 19:30:20 good day gents.. full house I see... 19:30:28 maybe it should say "don't forget to now run" 19:31:28 cradek: I think :"please issue this command now:" 19:31:55 I'm wondering if anyone has mounted smbfs on the new iso, bdi 4.38?? 19:32:17 Not here, still 4.30 19:32:46 ottos: having problems? 19:32:53 And I had a problem unmounting it, seems fam is watching it locking the umount out. 19:33:23 On this box, not on the bdi box, and I haven't foiund the fam starter here yet. 19:33:26 ya mount smbfs on bdi is not working...get bad superblock... 19:33:42 ottos: I had that with a bad kernel once 19:33:45 It does ok on 4/.30... 19:33:56 "You should now run ..." 19:33:59 SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos 19:34:20 guess you need to bug paul on his bdi project site 19:34:46 03cradek * 10emc2/src/Makefile: clarification 19:35:19 Well, it just ran 3D_Chips till line N9270, right above the feet. z axis following error. 19:36:17 I've commented some of the redundency out of that file, it seems to easily trigger a foillowing error if the motion reversses, or if its a continuation in the same direction. 19:37:11 what are the [TRAJ}max vel + max accel, and the [AXIS_2]max_vel + max_accel + stepgen_max_{either of those}, plus the steps/inch on that axis? 19:38:36 ############################################################################### 19:38:38 # Trajectory planner section 19:38:40 ############################################################################### 19:38:41 [TRAJ] 19:38:43 #+ machine specific settings 19:38:45 AXES = 3 19:38:46 # COORDINATES = X Y Z R P W 19:38:48 COORDINATES = X Y Z 19:38:49 HOME = 0 0 0 19:38:51 LINEAR_UNITS = 0.03937007874016 19:38:52 ANGULAR_UNITS = 1.0 19:38:54 CYCLE_TIME = 0.010 19:38:55 DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.0267 19:38:57 MAX_VELOCITY = 0.67 19:38:58 DEFAULT_ACCELERATION = 9.0 19:39:00 MAX_ACCELERATION = 10.0 19:39:11 #+ Third axis 19:39:13 [AXIS_2] 19:39:15 TYPE = LINEAR 19:39:16 UNITS = 0.03937007874016 19:39:17 HOME = 0.0 19:39:19 MAX_VELOCITY = 0.63 19:39:21 MAX_ACCELERATION = 10.0 19:39:22 STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 0.68 19:39:23 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 10.5 19:39:25 BACKLASH = 0.000 19:39:27 CYCLE_TIME = 0.001000 19:39:28 INPUT_SCALE = -8000 0 19:39:30 OUTPUT_SCALE = 1.000 0.000 19:39:31 MIN_LIMIT = -48.0 19:39:33 MAX_LIMIT = 48.0 19:39:34 FERROR = 0.006 19:39:36 MIN_FERROR = 0.003 19:39:37 HOME_OFFSET = 0.0 19:39:39 HOME_SEARCH_VEL = 0.0 19:39:40 HOME_LATCH_VEL = 0.0 19:39:42 HOME_USE_INDEX = NO 19:39:44 HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = NO 19:40:22 and BASE_PERIOD is still 50 us? 19:41:16 BASE_PERIOD = 0.000049 19:41:25 From the log: 19:42:24 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643455] MOTION: init_threads() starting... 19:42:25 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643461] HAL: creating thread base-thread, 49000 nsec 19:42:27 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643505] HAL: thread created 19:42:28 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643510] HAL: creating thread servo-thread, 980000 nsec 19:42:30 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643518] HAL: thread created 19:42:31 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643522] HAL: creating thread traj-thread, 9800000 nsec 19:42:33 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643529] HAL: thread created 19:42:34 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643619] MOTION: setting Traj cycle time to 9800000 nsecs 19:42:36 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643625] MOTION: setting Servo cycle time to 979999 nsecs 19:42:37 Feb 5 14:41:42 shop kernel: [656930.643642] MOTION: init_threads() complete 19:42:49 ok. 19:43:02 you don't need to maintain those multiples (just soyou know) 19:43:05 so you 19:43:09 The rest is ok from the log? 19:43:23 sure - mulling it over ... 19:43:27 I didn't maintain them this time. 19:43:55 err - wait, didn't maintain what? (dmesg? that's OK) 19:44:53 Watching it with the halscope, the f-erros are very minimal until you hit the max speed of something and then its off scal and out of sight. 19:45:20 Sparky_: I think this is a bad blending procedure in the TP 19:45:38 but I don't think anyone can look at it right now 19:45:40 makes sense. do the traces diverge nicely, like two not-quite-parallel lines, or is it a glitch that does it? 19:46:05 it's collinear lines 19:46:14 but sometimes different directions 19:46:30 the lines I'm talking about are in HALScope 19:47:20 Right, and Alex is correct, both error and f_error go out of sight 19:47:39 But not always in the same direction! 19:48:05 does it stop at the same place every time? 19:48:22 SWPadnos: you mean the program 19:48:29 yes - sorry 19:48:39 The TP looked like the culprit to me, but my head spins & I want to fall over when looking at that code. 19:48:51 if the following error occurs at mostly the same place every run through, then a misblend seems more likely 19:48:56 lerman has quit 19:48:59 To many external refs for my mind :) 19:49:09 too many internal refs as well 19:49:18 Chuckle... 19:50:30 lerman has joined #emc 19:50:59 This particular problem seems as if its been inherited from emc as supplied on bdi-4.30, the errors seem to always fall in the area where the blend to the next move might start if it was started way early. 19:51:25 Sparky_: are MAX_ACCEL on all your axes the same? 19:52:08 ATM Yes Chris, and Putting in a G4P=.001 stops them dead 19:52:28 what's G4? 19:52:34 puase 19:52:35 pause 19:52:48 Chris but not all screws are the same, z axis is 10 tpi, the others 20 tpi, scales adjusted accordingly 19:52:49 dwell 19:52:51 ah - I think it's used for ellipses in some dialects 19:52:59 Sparky_: ok, that shouldn't matter 19:53:14 I was just going to mention that - the scale is 1/2 the number of steps 19:53:25 since the following errors happen with the software step generator, it may matter 19:53:40 (regardless of whether there are motors or not) 19:53:42 All 3 amps are set for 1/4 step if thats any consolation 19:54:06 yes, motor power is off ATM since I can't see the machine from here... 19:55:37 well, with the machine off, try changing the INPUT_SCALE to 16000, and see if it gets through a run 19:55:44 on axis 2 19:55:54 Ok, brb 19:56:37 rayh-away is now known as rayh 19:56:59 03jmkasunich * 10emc2/configs/univpwm/ (8 files): initial commit of univpwm config, so I can work online with Jon to get it going - do not use yet 19:59:58 Its running 20:00:14 ok. 20:00:47 I'm interested in seeing if there is any problem related to the number of steps that can be generated, or the accel rate 20:01:14 too bad I can't copy paste the halscope screen here :) 20:01:37 if it works, try to find the steps/inch that it fails (and make sure that the other axes also fail at similar settings) 20:01:39 lol: http://winhistory.de/more/386/xpmini_eng.htm 20:01:43 yeah - GraphIRC ;) 20:03:07 ROFL 9 MIPS 20:03:17 Yup, sanme error, same place line N9270 20:03:40 Well, there is always dcc, but the file preps a pita 20:05:11 And to SWP, its pretty predictable on any axis., I its just that the z and y are the major exersisers here 20:05:21 can't spell either... 20:06:20 I'm rerunning at 90% feed, errored already 20:07:02 On the same line again 20:07:09 Sparky_: if it's an axis reversal can't you trigger it with g1z1f999 / g1z0 20:07:10 hmmm - OK. I'll have to go for TP problem, though I have no issues running 3d_chips at 180 IPM using the USC 20:07:11 trying 80% 20:07:29 USC? 20:07:37 Universal Stepper Controller 20:07:42 outboard step generator 20:07:52 and that's at 40k steps/inch 20:08:00 I see. Mucho $ 20:08:06 $250 20:08:39 meep 20:08:46 mop 20:08:50 yep, and I'd druther put that into the bigger table setup that Chris is selling at Littlemachineshop.com 20:09:30 but only if you can drive it ;) 20:10:03 The Y size on this one is a major limit, I had to carve some switchplate decorators in two mounts on the table a couple of weeks ago 20:10:34 I think I can with these motors of Jeffs 262oz/in 20:10:52 that's gotta be embarrassing if you have to change setups for a switchplate (unless it's a 4-gang) :) 20:11:04 It was ;_0 20:11:11 (not that I should talk, I've still got a manual machine) 20:11:53 wonder what I should do with these servos i bought? 20:11:55 The electrikery guy left all the boxes hanging proud of the drywall in an addition my nephew put on his new house at the dairy farm in NY. 20:12:20 sell them to me, cheap (but only if I like them :) ) 20:12:41 So I've been making decorator plates out of clean white pine, with a good multiple coat of Man-O-War Spar varnish. 20:12:53 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7585692507 20:13:36 Which ones are they Robin? 20:14:17 that's got a tiny little output shaft 20:15:19 looks like they may be a bit small for my micromill 20:15:22 nice score.. like the surpluscenter servos pretty much 20:15:55 3 phase DC? that sounds a little off 20:15:58 odd 20:16:03 03jmkasunich * 10emc2/configs/univpwm/univpwm.ini: changed univpwm ini file to invoke univpwm.foo instead of univstep.foo 20:16:04 03alex_joni * 10emc2/scripts/emc.in: allow automatic restarting of emc, to work from GUI's 20:16:34 three phase brushless DC 20:16:46 or AC 20:17:13 probably just didnt know what to call them 20:17:45 ah - "I'm not sure if these are AC or DC", not "use either AC or DC" 20:18:09 that's a good deall for just the connectors, actually 20:18:30 Re my axis errors, it looks as if its going to run all the way at feed=80% 20:19:22 Who would be the one to look at TP.c? 20:20:10 these motors look pretty sexy http://www.mavilor.es/products.asp?cuerpo=p01 20:20:17 Because this is well below the maximum speeds it can do reliably. <50% I'd say. 20:20:34 SWPadnos: yeah, actually, thats why we got them .. we need some more connectors for our Baldor motors and they are £22 each .. thats 4 of themm, still a abrgain, motors are free 20:20:39 err - there's nobody who'll admit to being the TP person 20:20:41 connector is the same 20:21:36 feel free to send me the motors then :P 20:22:23 03alex_joni * 10emc2/scripts/emc.in: obviously chris knows more bash foo than me 20:22:30 I've actually spent more on connectors thatn I did on motors 20:22:38 coo 20:23:10 we got a 3kw servo motor and drive "on demo" from a friendly rep ... going to use it as the spindle motor on our mill :) 20:23:17 3 Baldor 28 in-lb servos for $300-ish, then 3 connectors + backshells per motor for the cabinet and cable 20:23:23 heh 20:23:32 ahh, you went for Baldor too 20:23:39 how do you like them? 20:23:42 yep, MTE-4070BLBCE 20:23:48 they're great 20:23:51 for weightlifting 20:23:54 hah 20:24:01 what drives you use? 20:24:04 once I make the motor mounts, I'll let you know how they are on the machine 20:24:09 Geckos 20:24:29 a little under voltage (and current), but still more than the Bridgeport can stand 20:24:36 right .. these are DC servos thenm .. we only used AC servos from Baldor .. withtheir 415V drives 20:24:43 ah 20:24:56 but, yeah, sound like a good plan 20:25:12 I've seen a bunch of AC servos on eBay, but the incompatibility between drives (and the expense of good drives) put me off o fthem 20:25:25 using EMC or a Baldor NextMove ESB? 20:25:38 EMC2, USC, Geckos 20:25:47 ah, right OK. 20:25:56 at 40k steps/inch, I can't use software step generation 20:26:01 hell no 20:26:22 how many pulses per rev? 20:26:22 and I should still be able to get perilously close to 180 IPM on the machine, which would be scary as hell, I think 20:26:24 1024? 20:26:33 1000l encoders, 2:1 drive, 5TPI screw 20:26:39 Oh oh, that means I have to go and see if I can get my grey head into that sheesh... :( 20:26:39 (1000 line) 20:26:47 right 20:27:07 so you'll need up to 4 mhz out of the step gen right? 20:27:16 Sparky_: I don't think you should bother :) 20:27:44 no wait 20:27:50 4mhz/60 20:28:04 no - 3 IPS = 180 IPM, so 120 KHz 20:28:20 yeah 20:28:29 minutes / seconds - always get you 20:29:08 shold be fast anyway 20:29:31 this a BOSS5 stylee BP then? 20:29:35 180IPM would probably kill the machine - it's a manual series 1 20:29:35 was steppers? 20:29:43 oh right 20:29:48 I put the ballscrews in 20:29:49 ours is an old interact 1 20:29:56 it used to have a power feed though ;) 20:29:57 boss 5 control (or was) 20:30:48 Now I have halscope problem on the restart after resetting the axis 2 scale back to -8000, as follows: 20:30:52 one day, I'll sell the power feed and leadscrews 20:31:08 shop:/home/gene/emc2# bin/halscope & 20:31:12 [2] 17057 20:31:12 shop:/home/gene/emc2# HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'halscope' 20:31:12 ULAPI: WARNING: module 'HAL_halscope' failed to delete shmem 01 20:31:14 SCOPE: ERROR: hal_init() failed 20:31:15 Whats next 20:31:20 Whats next? 20:31:23 gonna be ballscrew for the servos? 20:31:36 Sparky_, halscope is already running 20:31:55 yes, I've already done that 20:32:03 right 20:32:07 Not on my screen it ain't 20:32:11 OK, off to work .. see you girls later 20:32:15 nice grounds screws, <0.0003 error total 20:32:18 har har 20:32:19 ooh. 20:32:26 Nice indeed! 20:32:28 Sparky_: killall halscope 20:32:38 even got a deviation report with them 20:32:47 I got one of those ... 20:32:51 it says : 20:32:59 "avoif this man, he is a deviant" 20:33:03 avoid 20:33:07 ps -ea|grep halscope 20:33:09 [2]+ Exit 255 bin/halscope 20:33:10 shop:/home/gene/emc2# killall halscope 20:33:11 halscope: no process killed 20:33:13 no - that's a "deviant report" 20:33:13 shop:/home/gene/emc2# 20:33:22 Sparky_: restart emc 20:33:24 ahh. my bad. 20:33:25 run halscope again 20:33:42 I have, what you saw was the thrid attempt... 20:33:50 hmmm 20:33:57 thrid? 20:33:59 ps ax | grep -i scope 20:34:07 it's a star trek thing 20:34:10 is that between tooth and forted? 20:34:24 "throg" and "tribble" 20:34:41 ah yes ..the rouble with tribbles. 20:34:44 anyway - go to work 20:34:52 rouble? 20:34:56 I read recently of a vicar that was victim to those ... 20:34:58 are they almost Russian? 20:35:10 well, not tribbles. 20:35:15 rubles? 20:35:22 but fell into a tribble harvester whilst out jogging 20:36:19 chuckle, restarted everything, now ok 20:36:35 What became of the vicar? 20:36:53 He got turned into a newt 20:36:57 (it got better) 20:37:52 reminds me of a butter joke I probably can't tell without checking the company out 20:38:03 bad company 20:39:32 and its a bit long for irc 20:40:20 Anybody here running Skype? 20:41:24 yeah thrid, can't type either :) 20:42:52 staggerlytom has joined #emc 20:43:03 * robin_sz has video skype :) 20:43:05 hello all 20:43:26 right .. outta here. 20:43:28 robin_sz has left #emc 20:43:56 video skype, I must have slept thru the revolution :( 20:44:08 Hi Tom 20:44:34 Hello Sparky 20:45:11 Odd nick, got it when I was still cheif at wdtv, cause around me, sparks occasionally flew 20:45:28 can't spell Chief either. 20:45:41 and I work in EDM, using sparks to cut steel 20:45:55 I see, neat stuff that. 20:46:26 But I think the right sized carbide bit is faster if the steels not too hard. 20:47:10 anything is faster, but EDM can make a square corner and blind square holes 20:47:13 How about surface finish using edm? 20:47:47 Near 1um avg is best, past mirroring opticaly 20:48:31 some tests show 0.2 in weighted measure 20:48:42 I had no idea one could get that sort of finish with edm, what dielectric medium for that? 20:48:48 oil 20:48:59 (paraffinic) 20:49:39 actually Japanese have done as well in air, all univ stuff tho 20:49:39 Ahh, but that might be used to do the workpiece for an astoroniomical mirror? 20:50:56 Actually, the metal would be the tar holder, with the abrasive embedeed in the tar for mirror working I guess. 20:51:01 not likely, there's a slowing down as the area increases, and a problem in the process controll loop, so shiny cm is practical, meter not 20:51:24 forgot to ask someone interested in some ps, stepper motors and controllers? 20:51:39 or say a 10" mold would be a long tine then? 20:51:44 #emc 20:51:57 ottos has left #emc 20:52:20 what does, ah he left, was gonna sk what he had for sale or ??? 20:52:46 yep, 10" ,means many hours for the transition from 27 VDI to <1 (surface ) 20:52:53 maybe days 20:53:33 Does anyone but me have fresh snow? Days, ouch. accuracy measured in wear on the machinery too I assume? 20:53:43 the size of the chip being removed is <1um, and unlike tar and grit, only 1 at a time 20:54:28 Ahh, I see. THats a limit for good finish, or can the roughing be done at higher rates? 20:55:21 rayh is now known as rayh-away 20:58:09 rough is much faster ( not as fast as mill/lathe ) and power is stepped down from rough passes till finish 21:04:13 bye /part 21:04:20 staggerlytom has left #emc 21:06:30 roltek has joined #emc 21:09:42 dmessier has quit 21:11:33 staggerlytom has joined #emc 21:15:56 03cradek * 10emc2/debian/ (control emc2.files rules): tkemc help installation, bwidget dependency for rayh 21:18:28 roltek has quit 21:24:11 roltek has joined #emc 21:32:07 roltek has quit 21:33:18 billy_kid has joined #emc 21:34:00 sera 21:34:16 ole! 21:35:01 italia? 21:35:11 perdon, idioma incorrecta 21:35:46 billy_kid has quit 21:36:16 * fenn wonders what just happened 21:37:16 I think you pissed him off 21:37:20 bad fenn 21:37:43 i forgot "buona sera" was italian and interpreted it in spanish 21:37:56 si 21:43:50 how nice is this? http://my.opera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/showpic.dml?album=32317&picture=349344 21:44:22 it might make not much sense, but I assure you it will after you see the second one: http://my.opera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/showpic.dml?album=32317&picture=349345 21:49:18 now if they just had e-ink wallpaper and a motion tracking system.. 21:49:18 was the mapping automatic? ( the one thru the glass is most interesting ) 21:51:20 ah - image based modeling 21:56:57 rayh-away has quit 21:57:01 that is cool 22:09:03 03jmkasunich * 10emc2/configs/univpwm/ (univpwm.ini univpwm_motion.hal): univpwm config files now reflect pwm and not stepper pins and parameters 22:14:02 anybody know what time the super bowl starts? 22:14:33 6:18 or so 22:14:36 EST 22:14:41 maybe 6:24 22:14:42 thanks 22:14:47 sure 22:14:52 6 ish then for the pregame 22:14:57 yep 22:15:05 I promised my wife I'd watch it with her 22:15:15 on that note, I'm outta here 22:15:18 I knly know because I want to see a band that's playing after the game ;) 22:15:21 see you 22:15:58 logger_aj has joined #emc 22:15:58 topic is: "Welcome to the Enhanced Machine Control forum - Support and development of a linux based CNC control. | Home:www.linuxcnc.org | Regular Developers' meetings every Sunday 14:00-18:00 GMT | wiki up @ http://wiki.linuxcnc.org | EMC usage map: http://www.frappr.com/emctheenhancedmachinecontroller" 22:15:58 Users on #emc: logger_aj staggerlytom lerman giacus Sparky_ jepler skunkworks Ephexis Imperator_ acemi jmkasunich alex_joni SWPadnos LawrenceG Jymmm wb9mjn CIA-8 picnet fenn ValarQ websys steves_logging robin bill2or3 djb_rh cradek ccjoe anonimasu A-L-P-H-A @ChanServ paelscrit jtr_ 22:16:06 staggerlytom has left #emc 22:17:08 jmkasunich has left #emc 22:29:04 Sparky_ has quit