yeah, seen the source already 15:35:23 the html looks the same for both 15:35:38 whether it's proper HTML, I dunno 15:37:31 a validator finds tons of problems with my web page, of course 15:37:52 :P 15:39:14 alex_joni_ has joined #emc 16:00:17 alex_joni: can you tell me if that page is better in opera now? 16:00:44 yup, fixed now 16:00:47 yay 16:00:47 thanks 16:00:54 thanks for letting me know there was a problem. 16:02:18 be back in a few 16:02:46 ok.. I'll soon be gone too 16:02:50 alex_joni_ has quit 16:59:10 les_w has joined #emc 16:59:51 I have to write a little code to caculate composite beam eigenfrequencies 17:00:05 a little too complicated for a spreadsheet 17:00:09 e ^ (pi * i) 17:00:23 haha 17:00:31 oops - that's -1 17:00:46 I have a linux box in the office 17:00:47 e ^ (jwz) 17:01:02 need C code? 17:01:14 could someone tell me how to compile a short c program? 17:01:19 gcc program.c 17:01:33 oh...gosh that's hard 17:01:35 even better - gcc -lm program.c -o program 17:01:37 yeah very 17:01:48 oh right, you might need -lm to include the math library 17:01:51 "-lm" means "link the math libraries" 17:02:09 -o program means "name the resulting program "program" instead of "a.out" 17:02:19 ah ok 17:02:38 or: make program 17:02:48 so the executable will be in the same directory as the source? 17:02:49 will that work with no makefile? 17:02:52 yes 17:02:53 les_w: yes 17:02:54 SWPadnos: yes 17:02:58 oh - cool 17:03:02 default rules and all 17:03:03 SWPadnos: implicit make rule 17:03:05 ok 17:03:28 will it pick up the math library requirement? 17:03:39 um, nope 17:03:55 thanks....I'll start typing some semicolons here 17:03:57 ok. but it will create "program" as output, rether than a.out? 17:04:02 SWPadnos: yes 17:04:05 cool 17:04:17 I really need to learn to use the gnu toolchain better :) 17:05:41 and I should learn C++ 17:05:54 details, details 17:05:56 but there are so many better languages 17:06:06 I wish I could find my copy of Stroustrup's book 17:06:24 good c++ is surprisingly good 17:06:34 did you put it in the back of your car for traction? 17:06:42 I don't think so 17:06:46 lemme check ;) 17:07:34 cradek, do you work for yourself? 17:07:47 sometimes, but in addition to my day job 17:07:51 ah 17:08:08 what's your specialty? 17:08:34 at work I manage a network full of programmers on unix 17:08:52 at home, I do computers, machining, and various other things 17:09:57 ok. I may need to hire out the design of a user interface, and AXIS is good, so I figured you and jepler would be good candidates 17:10:18 I appreciate the compliment 17:10:25 programming of a UI, actually, probably not the design 17:10:27 sure 17:10:56 jepler's the UI expert but the basic design of AXIS was my idea. 17:10:57 plus you both seem to know how to use the available tools really well ;) 17:11:09 (and what tools are available) 17:11:28 we both work together and we're definitely the "experts" here wrt the gnu toolchain etc 17:11:38 heh - I hope so 17:12:20 I have the O'Reilley book "Managing Projects with GNU Make", but it hasn't helped yet 17:12:26 (it might if I read it) 17:12:37 haha 17:12:56 instead of that, read recursive-make-considered-harmful 17:12:57 I look through the kernel code and find much amazing hackery 17:13:00 heh 17:13:04 seriously 17:13:28 this one? http://www.pcug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html 17:13:29 it tells you how to write a proper build environment for a large project 17:13:32 yeah 17:13:44 ok - I'll read that through my second cup of coffee 17:14:02 for the exact syntax of the make rules you'll end up writing, just flip through the make info pages 17:14:54 sure - I have enough knowledge to be able to read a makefile (or at least most of one), but not enough to a complex one, and especially not enough to debug one 17:15:04 to make a complex one 17:15:20 yeah, then start with that paper 17:15:27 there's LOTS of bad advice out there; beware 17:15:34 starting. at least it's only 14 pages 17:15:50 I just look at the kernel for all the good advice I need ;) 17:15:53 eek 17:16:31 maybe that paper rings truest if you already know how crappily a build system works when it's wrong 17:17:01 it may be 17:23:26 I really need a new compiler for the doz box so customers can use programs I write 17:23:41 download the free Borland C++ compiler 17:23:43 les_w: you can use gnu tools to compile for windows 17:23:52 or GNU 17:23:58 les_w: in fact you can create the program on your linux machine and send it to them already compiled 17:24:09 that would be good 17:24:10 but you need DJGPP for true windows binaries, right? 17:24:22 no, you don't need windows at all 17:24:32 (ie, not binaries that run in cygwin) 17:24:48 nope 17:24:57 ok - so djgpp is only for the host being Windows 17:25:07 but gcc has a windows target 17:25:21 % /usr/local/cross-mingw/bin/i386-mingw32msvc-gcc f.c 17:25:21 % ls -l a.exe 17:25:21 -rwxrwx--- 1 cradek develop 237348 Jan 20 11:25 a.exe 17:25:21 % file a.exe 17:25:21 a.exe: MS Windows PE Intel 80386 console executable not relocatable 17:25:29 I just don't really want to go the visual basic route....I have finally just about erased basic from my memory 17:25:51 ah right - mingw 17:25:52 have not written a line of basic in 15 years 17:26:05 please - don't start again now 17:26:16 heh 17:26:17 it'll hurt if you're used to C 17:26:29 VB hurts anyway 17:26:32 yeah 17:49:36 last big program I wrote in basic pds was the manufacturing system for the mirror heaters. 17:49:52 the whole line is a big servo loop 17:50:39 I forgot how many lines....source printout is about half an inch thick 17:51:21 after that I started with c. 17:59:06 does anyone here use Varicad? 18:14:06 TorbaX has joined #emc 18:14:45 hi all 18:15:38 I've tested axis with my cnc,emc2 and a example included it. 18:15:50 it works. 18:16:33 but I see an error posiiton with example 3D-chips.ngc 18:18:06 the error appears when I load 3D_Chips.ngc and I run the gcode.... 18:19:22 at first execution of the works(a penguin....) the drill stopped when it finished the work, 18:20:40 but if I click the run button the position to start the work(for Z axis ) is bad. 18:21:52 and manually I did to place the quote Z of drill to set correct position of Z axis. 18:22:50 Is this an error on that example? 18:29:19 TorbaX is now known as Torbax_calcetto 18:31:56 Torbax_calcetto: it seems to me you're loosing steps 18:32:09 mmm 18:32:15 it's strange 18:32:51 the penguin is ok 18:35:55 when 3dchips finished, the graph of drill position is correct but immediately I'll click run buttonthe X and Y position are perfect 18:36:14 drill and graph are perfect 18:36:31 but the z axis are wrong position 18:36:50 it is too low 18:37:12 hm.. maybe it's using an axis offset 18:37:17 not sure, I thought it doesnt 18:38:39 it seems to be the Z quote blocked to the end quote of the gcode completed 18:39:18 you should see the clocks he builds. Pretty cool ideas 18:39:34 skunkworks: cradek? 18:39:59 crap - sorry - I was reading in the middle somewhere - thought I was at the end. 18:40:08 :P 18:40:52 alex_joni: during the work at various speeds the steppers didn't leave steps 18:42:28 Torbax_calcetto: dunno what's wrong then .. 18:43:35 ::-| 18:45:59 the problem appears when I ran 2nd work to do but I didn't reload the file!!! 18:45:59 have you used g92 while playing around? 18:49:24 or did you click on the axis to set offset? (in tkemc that works9 18:49:30 not sure about axis 18:51:02 mmm 18:52:19 sorry but i see a G21 code into your 3d_Chipset... but G21 is a particular command to set inch if i understand it 18:52:37 is it correct? 18:52:50 I use a millimeters unit 18:53:08 G21 is mm 18:53:17 G20 is inch 18:53:33 ah ok 19:02:55 Torbax_calcetto: I'm running 3D_Chips.ngc in emc1+axis now to see if I get the problem you describe. 19:04:14 Torbax_calcetto: but it will take awhile 19:06:18 I think I don't understand the problem description 19:06:47 alex_joni: yes it take a while......... 19:07:20 cradek: I'm not sure I understand either 19:07:39 I reload the file and I ran it.....my cnc is very slow at the moment 19:09:01 the graph simulation seems to be correct but the real cnc work (eucaliptus wood) has an error..... 19:09:03 :) 19:09:05 Torbax_calcetto: Is the problem with the display onscreen, or a problem with where the machine actually moves? 19:09:25 jepler, cradek: same here, but I think he means the machine is in another place (different than what he expects) 19:09:42 the machine or the tool cone or both? 19:09:52 alex_joni: yes exactly 19:09:58 I suspect machine, 19:10:14 jepler: axis shows exact calculus 19:10:16 actually if I get it right, the position on the screen doesn't match the actual machine position 19:10:38 I see 19:10:49 and position on the screen is what should be, and machine's Z is at the wrong location 19:10:57 which emc? 19:11:00 somewhere below the right position 19:11:02 emc2 19:11:05 cradek: emc2 + axis 19:11:27 OK, then the test I am doing (axis + emc1 simulator) won't show anything. 19:22:24 Torbax_calcetto: what does the error in the actual piece look like? 19:26:11 I installed a debian server today.. took me about 20 minutes 19:26:19 went very smooth 19:32:02 I make dinner now 19:32:16 you send us some too 19:32:17 :P 19:32:27 see you later .....:P 19:32:32 ciao 19:39:03 alex_joni_ has joined #emc 19:52:37 hmm my website seems to try to download files when it's accessed 19:52:51 some funny lines in the html 19:53:09 i didn't put there 19:53:20 ever heard of such a thing? 19:54:09 what did you code the html in? 19:54:18 sitespinner 19:54:25 never heard.. 19:54:35 maybe it's putting stuff in behind your back :P 19:54:41 use vi for proper html 19:54:48 just a popular web authoring tool 19:55:24 my site seems down now...but there were a couple lines at the end of my index code refering to other urls 19:55:30 hijacked! 19:56:07 Hi Jack 19:56:15 heh 19:57:29 I may need to reboot here 19:57:54 can't get any web pages 19:58:09 funny irc works 19:59:40 does nslookup work? 20:00:25 not familiar with that 20:00:53 nslookup www.matrox.com 20:01:02 there are lines at the bottom of my code on the web host redirecting to http://damage.something.com 20:01:06 see if it can find the name in dns 20:01:25 that may be a hack or something 20:01:44 sure looks like it 20:01:48 like - the website got 0wn3d 20:03:33 heres the line: 20:03:45 printf("Enter piezo modulus of elasticity\n"); 20:03:45 scanf("%f",&epiezo); 20:03:52 oops haha 20:04:05 I don't think that's it ;) 20:04:18 20:04:19 20:04:52 and that happens for every site you try? 20:05:07 that's a virus 20:05:10 no just my site 20:05:15 don't try visiting any of the links 20:05:17 lmwatts.com 20:05:19 ? 20:05:21 and it is not on my mirror here 20:05:21 I mean for windows people.. 20:05:54 seriously DON'T 20:06:06 how the heck can someone get in to my directory on the host 20:06:13 well, a hack 20:06:15 what kind of OS? 20:06:34 ok I'll get on ftp and fix it...and also report it 20:06:44 Jymmm has joined #emc 20:06:46 change the passwd if you can 20:06:57 i'm doz...the host is linux or unix 20:07:29 sure looks like a virus huh 20:07:39 yep - looks that way 20:07:41 Mmmmmmmmmmmm virus! 20:07:43 the links definately are 20:07:50 dammit 20:07:55 what are we talking about? 20:07:56 probably everyone visiting your site will get it 20:08:11 doz stops the transfer 20:08:16 xp does at least 20:08:32 "unrequested file download" 20:08:47 on Opera it got through, but NAV caught it 20:08:58 jymm my html on my webhost has be modified 20:09:16 been 20:10:00 wattsfurniture? 20:10:06 yeah 20:10:24 there are two lines of code added 20:10:41 scroll up a couple pages here to see the lines 20:11:12 do you pay someone to run your web server? Time to call them up and chew them out. 20:11:25 yes 20:11:36 it's ipowerweb...one of the biggest 20:12:23 either inside hack or someone got my ftp password 20:13:26 checked the logs already? 20:13:56 no, but I sure will 20:14:48 well, gotta reboot. thanks for the help 20:15:13 les_w has quit 20:17:30 I don't see anything funny on that page 20:17:42 check the source 20:17:54 for a .wmf 20:18:19 no wmf or iframe 20:18:31 the two pages both contained some javascript that actually writes the page contents 20:18:37 on wattsfurniture? 20:19:00 the damage. name and nucleus. name pages 20:19:04 that les pasted 20:19:18 maybe I'm getting redirected somewhere 20:19:23 this doesn't look like anything of les's 20:20:01 http://www.lmwatts.com/ 20:20:07 that's les's site 20:20:16 and it has some weird iframes at the bottom 20:20:24 which load the content from other servers 20:20:37 which start an automatic download on doze 20:20:47 of some .wmf file, which has a trojan inside 20:20:50 CVE-2005-4560 virus 20:20:57 ah 20:21:10 still checking 20:21:22 both the linked domains say they are registered to 20:21:22 Registrant Organization: Morte alla Francia, Italia anela 20:21:22 Registrant Name: Tony Martino 20:21:34 but I suppose they may have been hacked too 20:21:46 Morte alla Francia = death to the french 20:21:54 so I doubt they are hacked 20:22:12 that's funny, I didn't realize les was french 20:22:20 neither did I 20:22:44 This is the virus --> http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2005-4560 20:22:45 but my italian might be poor.. so don't bet anything on my translation ;) 20:29:14 LawrenceG has quit 20:29:25 LawrenceG has joined #emc 20:29:51 * LawrenceG ... oops wrong button 20:30:25 don't you dare reboot the universe again, without a couple of 'sync's before 20:30:56 yea... a virus scan of the universe is slow at the best of times 20:31:11 and the partition scan at boot time.. 20:32:11 I did a wget in the 2 virus links of les's.... interesting little chunks of java to hide their intent 20:32:50 not good to find on ones web site.... :{ 20:34:49 oh java? I have that disabled. 20:36:15 java or javascript? 20:36:42 not sure will get it again... just a one liner 20:37:01 if one liner, that's js 20:37:29 yup 20:37:40 logger_aj: bookmark 20:37:40 See http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-01-20#T20-37-40 20:39:07 Les still hasn't removed that iframe yet. 20:48:16 les_w has joined #emc 20:48:24 back 20:48:36 Les still hasn't removed that iframe yet. 20:48:51 well, refreshed the directory with ftp 20:49:03 it should be gone 20:49:06 what about the anachie image? 20:49:07 checking 20:49:21 THis http://www.lmwatts.com/image/obj6geo7pg1p4.gif 20:49:37 that's a tracking gif... to know where it came from 20:49:48 no that stays. I just have a little problem with authority. 20:49:53 thats what it looks like to me 20:50:17 oh, ok... the stange filename triggered it for me 20:50:51 but the virus iframe is cleaned 20:50:59 password changed? 20:51:28 I got on ipowerweb livechat and bitched to the indian guy...but he could hardly understand it 20:51:41 *sigh* 20:51:47 no now I have to change all passwords 20:51:47 did you look at the logfiles? 20:51:51 dammit 20:52:18 no have not looked at the logs yet...but the file was modified 17 jan 20:52:56 gonna look now 20:53:07 might have also left a backdoor for themselves 20:54:09 yeah 20:54:54 hmm let's see...new password...hmmm 20:55:07 I can never remember the damn things 20:55:45 the current one is hard...no way it could have been guessed 20:56:21 do you sue ftp or sftp? 20:56:43 just ftp...cuteftp to be exact 20:57:50 might consider usign sftp if your host allows it 20:58:33 if not , let me know. 21:01:59 03cradek * 10emc2/src/hal/drivers/hal_ppmc.c: fix building on gcc-3.4 21:02:08 can someone else test that? 21:06:13 you know I get spam, but my cat's email address does not! 21:06:39 she doesn't need a 3" enlargement 21:06:43 LOL 21:06:48 Does Conga have an email address too? 21:06:49 the chicken does not have email. 21:06:56 I can fix that... 21:07:23 yes....congo@lmwatts.com 21:07:33 he'll get spam now! 21:07:42 haha 21:08:13 http://flickr.com/photos/92579619@N00/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/ 21:08:18 here's a nice setup 21:08:34 les_w do you have a common header/footer file by chance? 21:09:01 cat porn, african cats offering to send him millions, cat rolex, etc 21:09:13 million mouses :D 21:09:14 No don't have common header/fotter 21:09:16 why? 21:10:44 wow what a computer room alex 21:11:04 yup.. 21:11:28 les_w: Working on a lil something to help prevent that from happening again. 21:11:40 oh yeah? cool 21:12:41 les_w : Add this snippet of code to the HEAD section of each page: 21:12:44 21:13:06 it "should" work with frames and iframes as well. 21:13:17 untested on the iframes part. 21:14:28 A good place for it would be between the last META tag and before the STYLE tag. 21:14:55 hmm now what does that do 21:15:01 Jymmm: I think that's supposed to work in frames.. but not for iframes 21:15:10 you should have the code inside the iframe to work.. 21:15:17 If the page ever gets 'framed', it'll break out of the frame. 21:16:25 alex_joni asking someone now... 21:17:31 the virus thing was the only iframe 21:18:03 les_w: Preemtive Strike 21:18:49 I see 21:19:14 I had better paste that somewhere 21:22:06 hmm got 87,000 hits last year. 21:22:17 hits or visitors? 21:22:22 hits 21:22:30 6000 unique visitors 21:22:38 mostly reading the cnc stuff 21:23:46 les_w: that's ok, but it can be a lot better 21:23:53 given proper SEO & design 21:25:33 well good thing I am not trying to sell much on there 21:25:47 heh.. but you could :) 21:25:53 since I got so busy with these inventions 21:26:10 basically turned off the routed sign business 21:26:24 too bad ;) 21:26:30 I do a few if they are big 21:29:28 hmm don't see anything in the logs about the hack 21:30:36 I only have a few months' history, but for november/december/january the axis website got 1700 unique visitors, 3300 visits, 24000 hits per month 21:30:40 not sure about total unique visitors over the 3 months 21:30:53 bandwidth nose dived after the hack though. 21:31:02