01:08:40 rayh has joined #emc 01:22:27 rayh has quit 01:26:06 <[g2]> [g2] has joined #emc 01:26:35 <[g2]> This looks like a fun group. 01:26:57 <[g2]> Someone told me you guys might know how fast you can drive a parallel port in Linux 01:27:42 <[g2]> We are looking to use that for an advanced JTAG interface and don't have hard data as how fast the port can be driven. THX 01:27:58 around 25k pulses/second is probably the max for a non-heavily-customized kernel 01:28:33 if you use a custom bit-banging driver (like the i2c and now SPI) you can likely get faster 01:28:35 <[g2]> SWPadnos thx, what mode is best ? 01:28:59 for generating pulses manually, EPP I think 01:29:08 not ECP - the DMA features aren't a help 01:29:32 in fact, EPP may not even help -there wouldn't be any handshaking hardware on the other end 01:29:36 <[g2]> SWPadnos we have an FPGA on the other end 01:30:00 <[g2]> I think we'd want to drive it with DMA if we could 01:30:19 oh, in that case EPP or ECP would be better 01:30:53 <[g2]> It's parallel port -> Xilinx S3 -> JTAG pins 01:31:18 ok - the Spartan is meant as a JTAG interface to another board? (just making sure) 01:31:44 <[g2]> SWPadnos yeah it's gonna run TCLK at like 8MHz 01:31:51 ok. 01:32:14 I think the spec for ECP is 400kB/sec (I could be wrong though) 01:32:18 <[g2]> our scan chain is nearly 500 bits long 01:33:12 <[g2]> SWPadnos is that in bi-directional mode or one-way ? 01:33:25 one way, I think 01:33:32 rayh has joined #emc 01:33:35 <[g2]> in 16-bit mode ? 01:33:47 not sure about a 16-bit mode 01:34:08 <[g2]> Ok super. Thx for the help 01:34:13 sure 01:34:39 IEEE1284 is only 8 bits wide 01:35:35 the interface chip may accept single writes of 32 bits, but it still sends the data out the port in 8-bit chunks 02:15:53 haha looks like you came to the right channel 02:16:07 [g2]: is this for recovering badly flashed slugs? 02:19:48 <[g2]> jtr_away nope 02:20:08 <[g2]> jtr_away you've got to work really hard to do that 02:20:23 nah - just unplug the cable while it's flashing ;) 02:20:54 <[g2]> SWPadnos that'll only trash the kernel and rootfs not Redboot 02:21:26 I suppose it depends on what you're flashing 02:21:51 <[g2]> The bootloader doesn't reflash itself 02:21:58 if you're using a serial (or network) updater, then yes, i't's harder 02:22:00 right 02:22:26 <[g2]> now you can just dd of=/dev/mtdblock0 02:22:50 <[g2]> or you used to be able to do 6 months a year ago 02:23:10 <[g2]> how many slug users are in here ? 02:23:40 oh - is a slug actually something (I thought it was a nickname for mis-flashed chips) :) 02:23:56 like coasters for CDROMs 02:24:04 mine is still stock - and for some reason I can't write to the drive (all of a sudden) 02:24:15 <[g2]> it's our pet name for the Linksys NSLU2 NAS device 02:24:39 ah, OK. I read about those recently 02:25:02 <[g2]> jtr_away I never did like (or use) the Linksys firmware :) 02:25:37 <[g2]> I've built my own devices now anyway 02:26:02 <[g2]> The "slug" I've always wanted :) 02:26:30 I got one a couple of days after reading about them running linux, backed up a few PCs to the drive, then got busy. 02:27:09 now it's on the todo list 02:27:39 <[g2]> you know we're running Debian on it right ? 02:28:16 didn't catch that, no. 02:28:22 <[g2]> yep. 02:29:17 cool. 02:29:18 <[g2]> There is BE distro, but DebianSlug is switching to LE to run the standard ARM Debian 02:29:58 recent returnee to linux - BE? LE? 02:30:04 so.. lemme get this straight.. you guys are running debian on a networked hard disk!? 02:30:35 <[g2]> fenn there a USB 2.0 device on there with a HD 02:30:53 <[g2]> BE (big endian) LE (Little endian) 02:31:48 last time I thought about that was mixing assembler with fortran 02:31:57 <[g2]> heh 02:33:09 right - there was a recent SlashDot discussion on large networked storage 02:33:09 touch screen interface for controlling a DACS - the original multipoint video conference 02:33:39 this was one of the options that people liked (unless they had the misfortune of running the LinkSys firmware ;) ) 02:34:33 if only one could store 6GB / second with it :( 02:36:20 <[g2]> I can do 2+ GB a minute through my AMD64 file server 02:36:38 that's only 180x too slow ;) 02:36:53 I shouldn't need that much at first, but I'd love to find something that can do it 02:37:17 2G/min isn't bad - what disks are you using? 02:37:17 <[g2]> 6GB / second ? 02:37:24 yep 02:37:24 * jtr_away wonders how swp is generating that much data 02:37:27 <[g2]> that's a single disk 02:37:42 <[g2]> If I striped I could to 3+ 02:37:42 60x 5MP digital cameras, each can output 100MPixels/sec 02:37:54 actually, it's 9G, since the data is 12-bit 02:38:34 <[g2]> does the 60x count the burst mode of 6-9 a second ? 02:38:47 at first, it'll just be 7.5M x 60, stored as fast as possible 02:39:02 60 cameras, each running at whatever rate I can get them to run 02:39:12 (these are custom cameras I'm designing) 02:39:30 astronomy? 02:39:39 no - entertainment 02:39:49 think "The Matrix" 02:41:08 <[g2]> SWPadnos I'd think you could to that with an FPGA, and HDs 02:41:13 <[g2]> and a little power 02:41:33 <[g2]> basically, my SATA HD can drive nearly 60MBs 02:41:46 <[g2]> so it could handle 5 cameras with some spare 02:42:09 <[g2]> so a dozen setups gets you 60 camera 02:42:51 I need to be able to output video from one computer, so all the data has to go to one place 02:42:55 <[g2]> then an ethernet spec that allows timing to be sync to microseconds or nano seconds 02:43:18 I've been looking into GigE (or 10Ge) and infiniband for the transport 02:43:42 <[g2]> SWPadnos that's fine, put simple GigE on the back end and you can stream it out to be aggregated 02:44:26 GigE on each camera will almost allow the full pixel rate 02:44:44 <[g2]> that's not your problem 02:44:53 <[g2]> the problem is getting to/from disk 02:45:08 I'm still waiting on my customer to get me real specs anyway (what a PITA that is) 02:45:43 <[g2]> do you have devices for the steaming and storage ? 02:45:48 true. though I may only need to save a smaller region of interest from each frame, so the stored data may be significantly less than the captured data 02:46:00 not yet. any sugestions? 02:46:09 +g 02:46:40 <[g2]> when would you need the devices to be ready ? 02:47:52 I think the project calls for a 6-month design cycle 02:48:00 that may be pushing it a bit though 02:48:36 I also need to find out what final output format is needed (both the physical media and the data format) 02:50:01 <[g2]> SWPadnos what's the probability of this project happening ? 02:50:33 99.7% or so ;) 02:50:47 I'm just missing the parameters, that's all 02:51:30 <[g2]> I've been thinking about building a Gigabit NAS boxes 02:51:39 that would be cool. 02:51:51 <[g2]> this would be a slight variation on that 02:51:56 I'm definitely interested in using the technology I develop for this in other areas 02:52:32 (which means, if we can develop something, I'm happy to have us produce and market it) 02:52:45 if you do it, and I buy the products, of course it's your deal :) 02:53:14 <[g2]> I was thinking the latter, but I'd imagine the former might work for the entertainment industry 02:53:53 well - we should talk about it offline. where can I contact you? 02:54:04 if you give me an email, I can send you contact info 03:22:32 night all 03:22:38 see ya 03:36:24 Ephexis has quit 04:23:27 Jymm is now known as Jymmm 04:42:00 rayh has quit 04:45:33 SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away 05:27:37 fenn_ has joined #emc 05:29:01 fenn has quit 06:08:14 fenn_ is now known as fenn 07:02:24 Jymmm has quit 08:03:30 hm 08:06:29 morning 08:14:50 Jacky^ has joined #emc 08:15:05 morning 08:16:22 morning 08:16:38 hi anonimasu :) 08:19:23 anonimasu: working ? 08:19:31 I am buying yeah 09:06:37 looking for a new laptop 09:06:42 and a pcmcia paralell port card 09:09:54 :) 09:10:00 but I found the card 09:18:43 nice 09:37:21 :) 09:37:26 so now it's laptop order time 09:51:00 anonimasu, are you the student? or was that aj? 09:52:09 A-L-P-H-A: no idea.. 09:52:18 I am not a student though 09:52:19 :D 10:39:22 k 10:39:23 :) 11:47:23 morning all 12:45:26 <[g2]> anonimasu do you have a url for the pcmcia parallel card ? 12:46:59 http://www.quatech.com/ 12:47:58 they'd allow me to return the card if it didnt work for me also 12:56:12 <[g2]> thx 12:57:24 ;) 13:06:26 anonimasu: can't find laptops with parallel anymore? 13:06:43 jepler: oh, yeah byt they were heavy.. 13:06:59 the one I got is < 2kg 13:07:29 yeah, I bet both of the laptops I have are >2kg 13:07:40 the normal one i have are about 4kg 13:07:44 they have parallel though 13:07:47 but it's a p4 inside ;) 13:07:59 "desktop replacement"? 13:08:01 yeah 13:08:13 radeon 9800 and stuff ;) 13:08:48 I know where to buy a desktop machine 13:08:53 thank you very much 13:09:00 heh.. 13:09:19 I dont really care as I dont move too much mostly to lan parties sometimes.. 13:09:40 but for work, I need to carry it around.. 13:10:55 jepler: thank you. 13:13:35 skunkworks has joined #emc 13:13:45 anonimasu has left #emc 14:15:21 pc_op has quit 14:23:11 rayh has joined #emc 14:48:16 skunkworks has quit 14:48:20 does anybody have the url that cncuser gave about remastering his puppy cdrom? 15:10:28 Wiki someplace 15:12:50 rayh_ has joined #emc 15:13:12 http://emc.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Emc_Puppy 15:14:18 http://emc.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?CncUser 15:14:40 First is Matt Shaver's stuff second is cncuser's. 15:14:55 rayh_ has quit 15:15:17 cool 15:16:47 hi guys 15:16:56 going to walk a bit :P 15:16:58 later 15:17:04 Jacky^ has quit 15:17:39 I should call Matt and see if he has gotten the last two steps figured out. 15:18:02 Just got a usb stick and want to try booting from it. 15:18:57 wow, does that really work on modern computers now? 15:20:09 That is the question I want to answer for myself. 15:20:25 let us know! 15:21:03 Nope. That's not GPL info. 15:21:47 There's one of those self help books out. 15:22:01 something about stop walking on egg shells. 15:23:09 we "US'ers" have a saying "stop pussy footing around." 15:23:39 i think direct questions and direct answers work the best. 15:23:55 so as soon as I find out if I can boot from usb, I'll let everyone know. 15:25:27 I've got a full puppy iso. I should try that now. 15:25:40 be back later. 15:25:45 rayh has quit 15:35:10 ? 15:35:15 does anyone know what he was talking about? 15:35:24 about what? 15:36:11 direct questions etc 15:36:27 this is exactly the thing I was looking for: http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/mastering/coolcnc-mastering-howto.txt 15:36:53 it's a script to remaster coolcnc, and it shows that he simply downloads the newest CVS source and builds it 15:37:29 slick 15:37:46 there are the ADEOS settings etc 15:39:00 # for the pretty 3d look axis depends on opengl 15:39:06 and he thinks our software is ... pretty 15:40:07 bookmarked! 15:41:06 jepler: the emc_1.0-38 sources seem to be on my mirror 15:44:12 alex_joni: are there any axis sources yet? 15:44:30 emc 1.0-38 source was on neutron too 15:45:24 and emc 1.0-38 is still incomplete/unbuildable afaik 15:45:56 jepler: http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/emc/debian/pool/extras/a/axis/axis-20051221.tar.bz2 15:47:38 jepler: it won't build the debian way, but I think it might build if you do it the normal way 15:47:48 cd src && ./configure && make 15:48:25 alex_joni: isn't that just our own tarball? 15:48:33 alex_joni: that may be true but it still doesn't fulfill the GPL requirements 15:49:20 SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos 15:49:27 "plus the scripts used to cotrol compilation and installation of the executable" -- enough to rebuild the .deb package 15:49:42 is there an axis .deb? 15:49:56 SWPadnos: yes, paul_c distributes one on bdi up to 4.38. 15:50:33 yeah, diff says that's just our tarball, with none of the bdi changes 15:51:46 axis isn't listed in the package list. are you sure it's distributed as a .deb? 15:52:08 ah - I found it 15:52:17 /mnt/tmp/pool/contrib/a/axis/python2.3-axis_1.1+cvs.20051221_i386.deb 15:52:22 it's marked as "earmarked for deletion from BDI-4.40 15:52:37 ii python2.3-axis 1.0+cvs.20050925 AXIS front-end for emc 15:52:38 http://ourproject.org/moin/Package_list 15:52:45 this is the version on bdi4.30 15:53:04 its 1.1+cvs.20051221 on 4.38 15:53:05 yeah, apparently he's removing it after jeff's request that he comply with the license 15:53:07 SWPadnos: yeah, I saw that. I assume that's his way of getting back at me for asking him to comply with the license 15:53:14 presumably 15:53:16 or else an admission that he does not comply with the GPL 15:53:42 his loss 15:53:45 more likely that he doesn't give a shit if he has axis or not 15:53:53 is there a way to build a .deb that doesn't require the debian/ directory, and I'm just unaware of it? 15:54:04 not that I know of... 15:54:27 SWPadnos: he must have gone to some work to package it... that's usually not as easy as it first seems 15:55:01 I agree - I think he did do a lot of work, but that he's pissed off now, and doesn't think it's worth it to keep axis 15:58:02 ooh - I'm world famous on the Geckodrive list 15:58:24 good kind of world famous or bad kind? 15:58:38 good, but possibly embarrassing 15:59:05 I wrote software to download command sets to the G-Rex, and Mariss has oublished it for all to see 15:59:17 so it's good, but I don't really like the software much, so it's bad too 15:59:39 (quick hack != user-ready application) 16:00:44 this is weird. my vncviewer works fine to type into most apps (e.g., terminal, browser) but in qemu it is completely fubar 16:00:53 qemu running inside vnc 16:01:21 e.g., tab types "1", return types " " (at the puppy boot prompt) 16:01:50 I wonder if it's some odd keyamp thing 16:02:01 I've seen similar problems with vnc -> rdesktop 16:02:10 I still haven't understood why 16:06:54 bill-xm has joined #emc 16:07:17 anyone done a cnc conversion to the HF micro-mill? 16:07:27 (not the mini, the micro) 16:07:50 not me 16:08:10 I'm thinking of getting one, there's a coupon to bring it down to really really cheap. 16:10:16 I wouldn't know where to get motors that small ;) 16:13:31 heh. 16:13:55 I guess you'd have to use pulleys to make the mounts fit. 16:14:10 is there a picture of this machine online? 16:14:21 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47158 16:14:26 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47158 16:14:29 yes, that. 16:15:03 cute 16:15:11 not much Y travel 16:15:21 I looked at the Homier version of this, and I couldn't bring myself to pay for it - it was too flimsy 16:15:35 what'd you get instead? 16:16:21 a used Bridgeport ;) 16:16:32 ha 16:16:33 slightly different size 16:16:39 heh 16:17:39 heh, a tiny bit bigger huh 16:17:44 yep 16:18:04 I was looking at the minimill size though, so it's only 2.5x the weight 16:18:36 my main interest was in milling copper, so the machine has to be pretty stiff 16:25:37 Ephexis has joined #EMC 16:31:11 hmm, ~$135 difference between the 'mini' and 'micro' 16:46:18 Jymmm has joined #emc 16:47:59 Morning Folks! 16:48:09 tell it to the judge 16:48:21 hihi 16:48:25 I mean - Hi Jymmm 16:49:02 SWPadnos: YOu're getting to be worse than me ! =) 16:49:06 heh 16:49:14 at least I've got an extra 3 hours on you :) 16:49:49 or 3 hours wasted, depending on how you look at it 16:49:58 an extra 3 hours wasted 16:50:07 there ya go 16:51:02 so any further thoughts in the safe spindle control? 16:51:18 nope 16:51:33 SWPadnos: YOU'VE HAD THREE EXTRA HOURS?! lol 16:51:37 wth 16:51:50 but I'm only just drinking my first cup of coffee, so there 16:52:23 I'm gonna let you slide, cause I could take that to a whole other level 16:52:34 ok by me 16:52:46 ok..... 16:53:18 anyway - I thought we had decided that the charge pump idea was enough for you, since you're not trying to prevent the software from turning the spindle on 16:53:39 only trying to prevent it from coming on if the software isn't running yet (ie, at bootup) 16:53:55 So it took your ass three hours to get to the coffee pot, do we need to get you one of those scooters- hoverround, things or just one of those pendants for the next time you have to say "I've fallen and I can't get up!" ? 16:54:09 I need an elevator 16:54:33 if you provide me with an antigravity flying harness, I'll be more productive 16:54:43 you dont need no damn elevator... an electric winch from Harbor Freight 16:55:47 oooooohhh - electricity 16:56:20 but you have to pedle the bicycle to power it 16:56:34 nah - I'll get my wife to do that - she likes exercise 16:57:08 (note that I said "likes", not "needs") 16:57:19 just for the record 16:57:48 prove it 16:58:08 it's been proved 17:00:38 you ever see that 50yo grandma for the bowflex commercial? 17:02:12 not that I recall 17:02:35 hold on 17:03:35 oh wait a second - she's in blue exercise gear? 17:03:47 http://www.fitgrandmother.com/ 17:04:14 ok - yes, I've seen her 17:04:48 so, no you havent proved it 17:05:13 "for the record" 17:05:27 I never said my wife was 50+ 17:05:32 and that's not her 17:05:35 so nyah 17:05:50 but 10 years from now, I may wish it was ;) 17:05:55 were 17:06:11 lol 17:06:15 we all do 17:06:34 "when I'm 64" 17:07:24 it always muses me that people byt exercise equipment 17:07:27 buy 17:07:31 amuses 17:07:35 argh - need more coffee 17:08:12 but then they go out and get cars with remote controlled doors, leaf blowers, and the like 17:08:47 skunkworks has joined #emc 17:10:11 rayh has joined #emc 17:10:53 Yup. Puppy will install on and boot from USB stick. 17:11:00 cool 17:11:34 of only we had a driver for the deskCNC board, I could show off at my friend's house ;) 17:11:38 s/of/if/ 17:12:14 There was a problem with the sk98lin ethernet driver with it so no net. 17:12:21 on this box. 17:12:36 that's a gigabit nic (or is it wireless)? 17:12:59 nic 17:13:09 ok 17:13:38 there's been some discussion on LKML recently about the skXXX drivers 17:14:11 The one on BDI works fine. (Hi Paul) 17:17:37 deskCNC isn't a driver, is it? 17:18:06 deskCNC is a software package, and a small microcontroller-based pulse generating board 17:18:12 it communicates over a serial port 17:18:45 I'm on the website now, but you still need geckos (or whatever), correct? 17:18:52 yes 17:19:06 it's not a driver, just an I/O / pulse controller 17:19:43 When would you want to use this (serial) over parallel? 17:19:59 I wouldn't, since the software runs only on Windows 17:19:59 is there documentation on the serial protocol? 17:20:06 not that I know of 17:20:17 I have an older board, so I could reverse engineer it if necessary 17:20:29 but I don't think it's necessary :) 17:20:47 Jymmm: putting a lot of smarts on an external board means you can get away with no realtime code on the PC much more easily 17:20:47 YOu need a software driver for it? 17:20:55 you need their software for it 17:21:01 oh, ug 17:21:20 jepler: That I understand, I thought it was a PURE HW-ONLY device. 17:22:04 Kinda like TelnetIRC =) 17:22:20 rayh has quit 17:22:42 rayh has joined #emc 17:24:37 so I think I'm gonna get that micro-mill. also a vise and an endmill holder, are there any other "must have" accessories? 17:25:00 bill-xm Tequilia 17:25:07 check! 17:25:18 url? 17:25:24 harbor freight micro-mill 17:25:27 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47158 17:25:34 cheap, but so am I. 17:25:36 heh 17:25:50 there's a %20 coupon too. 17:25:51 that thing costs as much as my motors (only because I got a really good deal on them) 17:26:17 maybe a clamp kit? 17:26:18 otherwise, each motor would have been 3x the price of the mill :) 17:26:32 what kind of stuff do you expect to machine? 17:26:33 oh yeah Jymmm, good idea 17:26:41 If I thought it would mill PCBs OK I'd probably buy one too 17:26:58 tiny stuff for model stirling engines and such, and maybe some engraving. 17:26:59 PCBs actaully need some of the tightest tolerances 17:27:12 I dont even have a drill-press now, so I need it to drill straight holes too. 17:27:18 you may be OK. unless you want to mill Inconel 17:27:26 "inconel"? 17:27:40 very hard metal, often used in building small steam engines 17:27:48 we usually do 10/10 on cradek's maxnc, which it does without trouble 17:27:53 there's a cnc-conversion yahoogroup for that mill, and people have had good results. 17:28:07 inconel == Nickle Chromium alloy 17:28:08 I'm using soft stuff, brass & aluminum 17:28:18 jepler: only after lots of work to get zero backlash 17:28:27 cradek: yeah, luckily for me you did all that work 17:28:28 luckily, the work envelope is small, so you can keep relatively good tolerances 17:28:45 yeah, I dont expect to do any parts bigger than 2-3 inches across. 17:28:46 you'll probably need to replace the leadscrews if you want really good accuracy 17:29:04 yeah, if I cnc it later I'll upgrade some parts. 17:29:11 1/4-16 acmes are cheap 17:29:13 s/some/most/ :) 17:29:19 but that'd be a ways off, since I'm just a newbie. 17:30:00 note that the spindle power is 1/5 HP - that's significantly less than a cheap Sears drill press 17:30:08 it'll limit the metal removal rates 17:30:08 Cheap thompson ballscrews http://www.lowcostcncretrofits.com/Ballscrews%20and%20transmision.html 17:31:53 bill-xm you are aware that HF stuff is really loose tolerances/crap? 17:32:02 heh 17:32:34 yeah, I know. 17:32:39 I have one of thier mini-lathes 17:32:43 bill-xm ok, cool. 17:33:03 I bought a trim router, turned it on and the outter case started melting. 17:33:14 I bought an angle grinder and it works awesome 17:34:28 with my hobbiest-sized budget it's pretty much that or nothing, so I'll make do. 17:35:21 bill-xm That's cool, just wanted to make sure you're aware of that is all. 17:35:37 yeah, I know it's pretty much bottom of the barrel stuff. 17:36:07 =) 17:36:13 mostly I just want to get in cheap, I have a tendancy to pick up new hobbies and then get bored with something. so If i'm still interested in 2 years I'll get something better. 17:37:57 lol, fair enough 17:40:04 bill-xm do you live near a HF store by chance? 17:41:16 harborfreightusa.com 17:41:23 yeah, a few miles from here. 17:41:28 I was going to go at lunch. 17:41:36 is the retail website, a seperate entity from the online stuff 17:41:48 they are two different companys 17:41:49 they have different sales, but they're the same company 17:42:01 legally they are sperate 17:42:18 usuallly the retail stores will honor online prices if you bring in a printout. 17:42:22 at least my local store will 18:09:18 skunkworks has quit 19:07:00 03swpadnos * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/halcmd.c: Added "%\n" prompt to script mode. Added fflush for piped use. Made "name" equivalent to "show all name", to improve script/piped use. 19:20:43 03swpadnos * 10emc2/docs/man/man1/halcmd.1: 20:24:57 rayh has quit 21:30:41 I am plus one micro-mill. 21:30:59 funny 21:31:44 when I think of mills, I think of the pain in the ass of transporting a ton of metal 350 miles, then the even worse part of getting it in the garage without heavy equipment 21:32:11 not "I think I'll go to the store and pick up a mill" ;) 21:32:17 yeah, thats the "micro" part. 21:32:21 right 21:32:33 makes it about the same weight as my rotary table :) 21:32:57 hey - wait. a 7-axis machine. hmmm.... :) 21:33:41 are you a machinist by profession? 21:33:44 SWPadnos: the most I ever played with is 18 ;) 21:33:51 nope - programmer / electrical engineer 21:33:57 ooooo - cool 21:54:09 Jacky^ has joined #emc 21:55:01 SWPadnos: synchronized even 21:55:21 that's like, emc^2 21:55:39 well.. it was a big welding system 21:55:49 hello 21:55:51