00:02:36 <Jacky^> G nite
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03:10:44 <jepler> anybody had a chance to try axis 1.1.1rc3?
03:10:52 <jepler> we'd love to get any feedback about it
03:11:07 <SWP_Away> nope
03:11:11 <SWP_Away> :)
03:11:20 <jepler> oh well
03:11:40 <SWP_Away> nothing personal - I haven't run emc for a while either
03:12:58 <jepler> I understand
03:13:03 <jepler> also, I think 1.1 works pretty well, maybe most people don't have any problems that are fixed by 1.1.1.
03:13:36 <SWP_Away> I think the only thing that bothered me was the "pop" when you rotate, due to perspective scaling vs. orthogonal scaling
03:14:30 <jepler> yeah it's an annoyance
03:14:35 <jepler> any suggestions on how to solve it?
03:15:15 <SWP_Away> there should be a way to get the correct perspective scale for each of the orthogonal zooms
03:15:31 <SWP_Away> even if it's a table you get empirically and put in as constants
03:16:05 <jepler> It's true that one particular plane can remain unchanged when you change from ortho to perspective
03:16:26 <jepler> if it was alway some plan "inside" the loaded file, it would probably be an improvement
03:16:41 <jepler> but the math is more than I can handle
03:16:48 <SWP_Away> heh - me too at the moment
03:17:56 <SWP_Away> since the pop only happens from an ortho mode though, it may be as simple as finding the tight fudge factor to multiply (stuff in the perspective matrix) by
03:18:06 <SWP_Away> s/tight/right/
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11:30:15 <cncuser> hi
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13:46:35 <alex_joni> morning
13:47:00 <skunkworks> Hi
13:47:06 <alex_joni> * alex_joni is almost dead..
13:47:18 <alex_joni> dead tired that is..
13:48:27 <skunkworks> you need more sleep 
13:49:26 <skunkworks> I love to state the obvious
13:49:40 <alex_joni> nah.. too much physical labour today ;)
13:49:47 <alex_joni> and the day is far from over..
13:50:03 <skunkworks> day just started here.
13:50:18 <alex_joni> 15:50 < skunkworks> day just started here.
13:50:23 <skunkworks> ;)
13:51:31 <cncuser> good morning alex_joni, skunkworks :)
13:55:55 <skunkworks> morning
14:00:17 <alex_joni> hello
14:01:08 <cncuser> is there a special reason whgy adeos gets insmoded and not modprobed ?
14:01:51 <cncuser> by the emc startscripts ?
14:02:50 <cncuser> is there some setups where no modules.dep is generated ?
14:09:46 <cncuser> whatever, allread got a workaround ;)
14:09:53 <cncuser> another thing
14:11:42 <cncuser> is it possible to send commands to emc via commandline while the axis or tkemc gui is active ?
14:12:07 <cncuser> im thinking about using a joystick for manual positioning
14:14:04 <jepler> cncuser: http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi/software/01119021973
14:14:50 <jepler> cncuser: yes, multiple programs can send commands to emc
14:15:19 <jepler> cncuser: the program I linked to above lets you jog and send other commands to emc with a digital joystick
14:17:29 <skunkworks> that is pretty neet
14:22:56 <alex_joni> hi jeff
14:24:23 <jepler> hi alex
14:24:30 <jepler> hi everyone else for that matter
14:25:08 <alex_joni> ;)
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15:36:00 <cncuser> thanks jepler
15:36:25 <cncuser> jepler: could you please repost the ngc with the pcb layout ?
15:36:47 <cncuser> i lost it and want to take some more screenshot
15:39:12 <cncuser> ah i found them :) got a little confused with to many stacks of unionfs:)
16:01:00 <alex_joni> * alex_joni is gone home for today
17:27:59 <CIA-8> 03cradek * 10emc2/TODO: I fixed this a while ago.
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19:30:56 <k4ts> Hi
19:33:01 <Jymmm> hi
19:34:35 <k4ts> hi Jymmm 
19:39:48 <Jymmm> k4ts how are you today?
19:41:53 <k4ts> well good day
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20:35:10 <Jacky^> hello
20:39:48 <alex_joni> hi all
20:40:12 <cradek> hi
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20:48:34 <Jacky^_> mmhh
20:50:28 <Jacky^_> k4ts: turned on the washing machine
20:50:43 <Jacky^_> too much machine turned on at the same time :/
20:51:03 <Jacky^_> for 2.5 kw ..
20:55:50 <Jacky^_> anyone here has experience with international shipping and customs tax ?
20:57:44 <alex_joni> * alex_joni has some
20:57:53 <Jacky^_> hi alex_joni 
20:58:19 <Jacky^_> what If I send a gif to a friend in USA, value E .100
20:58:31 <alex_joni> a gif?
20:58:31 <Jacky^_> should he pay ? how much ?
20:58:35 <Jacky^_> gift
20:59:06 <Jacky^_> how they calculate the customs tax ?
20:59:27 <Jacky^_> I know, I compiled a pro forma invoice
20:59:50 <Jacky^_> assuming I writed Total value E. 100
21:00:02 <alex_joni> depends on what it is
21:00:05 <Jacky^_> how it work ?
21:00:18 <alex_joni> and at the post office they ususally have a customs officer
21:00:18 <Jacky^_> souvenirs, books ..
21:00:41 <alex_joni> I know that for regular persons, everything under 100E is free of duty 
21:00:47 <alex_joni> at least in romania
21:00:57 <Jacky^_> anyone know in US ?
21:01:17 <alex_joni> I think it's a bit more relaxed over there..
21:01:19 <Jacky^_> I read under E. 45 its free
21:01:50 <Jacky^_> ok..
21:02:21 <Jacky^_> I payed E. 103 for 3 geckos , but as commercial products
21:02:29 <alex_joni> just make the proforma for 45E
21:02:37 <alex_joni> say they are refurbished or something
21:02:57 <Jacky^_> uhmm.. I already missed it then 
21:03:03 <Jacky^_> up to 45 ..
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21:03:47 <Jacky^_> damn it .. 
21:04:35 <Jacky^_> now, assuming I will send a gift to Jymmm : value E. 100
21:04:48 <Jacky^_> how much he will pay ?
21:05:07 <alex_joni> try it..
21:05:16 <Jacky^_> how ?
21:05:33 <Jacky^_> Postal office here sayd just some dollar ..
21:05:40 <Jacky^_> O_O
21:05:54 <alex_joni> it can't be more than 10% or so..
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21:06:13 <Jacky^_> ok, thats is good enough
21:06:19 <Jacky^_> :)
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21:17:30 <k4ts> hello!
21:18:40 <Jacky^> hola 
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21:44:49 <Jymmm> ?
21:47:07 <alex_joni> Jymmm: Jacky^ was asking if you know anything about getting packages from europe
21:47:16 <alex_joni> how much you pay for duty and such
21:48:49 <Jacky^> oh sorry .. was writing an email
21:49:21 <Jacky^> I know very little about that
21:50:19 <Jymmm> me neither... I avoid international shipping
21:50:24 <Jacky^> I just bought 3 geckos from US time ago, and I payed E . 103 customs tax on a total of about E. 430
21:50:40 <Jacky^> but it was a commercial product and tax
21:51:14 <Jacky^> I suppose as gift customs tax should be not so much
21:52:00 <Jacky^> I knowed another thing
21:53:01 <Jacky^> it seem isnt possible to get any insurance on packages sended in US from here
21:53:37 <Jacky^> Postal office today sayd to me, insurance is possible only for EU  :(
21:54:10 <Jacky^> that sound to me as a bad thing:/
21:54:21 <alex_joni> Jacky^: use UPS
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21:54:34 <Jacky^> already sended 
21:54:41 <Jacky^> hey les_w 
21:54:49 <les_w> hi jacky just got your email
21:54:50 <les_w> thanks
21:54:54 <Jacky^> :-)
21:55:06 <Jacky^> hope you like it
21:55:18 <Jacky^> sorry .. if I missed something
21:55:29 <les_w> I was working trying to buy beryllium foil for transducers
21:55:34 <les_w> expensive stuff
21:55:36 <Jacky^> right now was asking about customs tax ..
21:55:43 <Jacky^> nice :)
21:55:51 <Jacky^> got some progress ?
21:56:09 <les_w> $1200/kg?
21:56:11 <les_w> haha
21:56:14 <Jacky^> hehehe
21:56:44 <Jacky^> the service I choosed is cheaper then ups
21:56:54 <les_w> and...I have to buy a car very soon . need to go to chicago and ohio .
21:57:02 <alex_joni> bye all
21:57:04 <Jacky^> POste italiane, but it may will take some day more :(
21:57:13 <Jacky^> bye alex_joni 
21:57:18 <les_w> bye alex
21:58:45 <Jacky^> I seen some photos from latest LA motor show
21:58:52 <Jacky^> really great :)
21:59:08 <Jacky^> wonder what will be in Detroit :P
22:00:14 <Jacky^> I know, of course youre not looking at cars like that
22:00:19 <Jacky^> :-)
22:00:47 <Jacky^> there was a one, really with an incredible HIFI inside
22:00:48 <les_w> let me show you...will take a min
22:01:07 <Jacky^> and a big 30 " colour lcd in the rear
22:01:17 <Jacky^> was incredible :)
22:02:18 <les_w> http://www.nctd.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2005_Lexus_GS&ReviewID=1606
22:02:26 <les_w> what do you think of this?
22:03:06 <les_w> Seems nice inside, a little plain outside
22:03:08 <Jacky^> looks nice 
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22:03:23 <k4ts> hello
22:03:30 <k4ts> hello les_w 
22:03:31 <les_w> hi anna!
22:03:32 <Jacky^> and if you choosed it, im sure its a great car !
22:03:34 <Jacky^> hehe
22:03:41 <les_w> ha
22:04:05 <les_w> I just ordered some hi fi speakers for audio work
22:04:15 <les_w> I ordered 24 speakers!!
22:04:26 <Jacky^> woow :)
22:04:27 <les_w> for line arrays.
22:04:31 <Jymmm> 22" ?
22:04:46 <les_w> nah 4.5" cast frame mids
22:04:52 <Jacky^> great
22:05:41 <les_w> Doing some experiments...I may design a new driver for audio/hifi
22:05:54 <Jymmm> 4000 Watts
22:05:57 <les_w> make protos with emc!
22:06:03 <Jacky^> :P
22:06:27 <les_w> 100 mm beryllium dome mid
22:06:31 <les_w> perhaps
22:06:43 <Jymmm> les_w I thought of a 18 speaker system for a car once =)
22:06:49 <les_w> awfully expensive to make
22:07:28 <Jacky^> max HIFI I got in a car was 3 way + sub kit
22:07:46 <les_w> Oh I have two acoustics consulting jobs now...thought I would mess with the hifi stuff too while I am in that state of mind
22:08:06 <les_w> I used to design hifi stuff for a living.
22:08:10 <Jymmm> les_w: 150 24" speakers!!!
22:08:22 <les_w> aeeiii
22:08:25 <Jacky^> BMW woofer,md,tw, active xover, 2 amps, soundstream 50 W class A and Phoenix gold 100 W on the rear 
22:08:31 <Jymmm> les_w I wanna hear you in Calif!
22:08:37 <Jacky^> that was my HIFI in the car
22:08:50 <les_w> ah...hifi enthusuast
22:09:04 <Jacky^> active xover was alpine
22:09:06 <les_w> you will want my $400 beryllium mid driver haha
22:09:10 <Jymmm> les_w I got one speaker for ya.... it requires 220VAC 3ph just to power the coil alone.
22:09:28 <Jacky^> of course I not used passive xover 
22:09:31 <les_w> haha
22:09:39 <Jacky^> :-))
22:09:43 <Jymmm> les_w cone not included
22:09:48 <les_w> I sometimes use the amps in the music room to test servos
22:09:58 <Jymmm> lol
22:10:24 <k4ts> 0_0
22:10:33 <Jacky^> Latest subwoofer I heard was the square Kicker, really impressed
22:10:39 <les_w> bridged they put out about 150 volts
22:11:06 <Jacky^> US are the best for car HIFI equipments
22:11:16 <les_w> I must take a picture of the music room. Lots of speakers.
22:11:23 <k4ts> also naples Jacky^ 
22:11:25 <k4ts> ah ah
22:11:31 <les_w> 42 ft^3 to be exact
22:12:00 <Jymmm> les_w here ya go... a 300 lb speaker --->  http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTXT992244?ref=gogw4
22:12:23 <les_w> all apart now...burned some out when an output transistor shorted
22:12:58 <Jymmm> les_w only $8k
22:12:59 <Jacky^> les_w: what do you prefer , mosfet, Igbt ?
22:13:03 <Jacky^> transistor ?
22:13:36 <Jacky^> maybe depend on the target ?
22:13:41 <Jymmm> 2n2222
22:13:46 <Jacky^> hahaha
22:13:52 <SWP_Away> ok, now that 's a really funny thing:
22:14:08 <SWP_Away> Im very pleased with the quality of the sub but find my self turning it down rather than up. I get a constant ringing in my ears and lots of pain from listening too long.
22:14:11 <Jacky^> I build a mosfet power amplifier years ago
22:14:23 <SWP_Away> duh - don't listen to it that loud!
22:14:24 <les_w> most of mine are mosfet
22:14:27 <Jacky^> using metal case (was hitachi mosfet)
22:14:33 <Jacky^> yeah.. :)
22:14:46 <les_w> good god lookat that driver haha
22:14:48 <Jacky^> I also like valvle sound
22:15:13 <les_w> I have valve guitar amps
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22:15:45 <calvino.freenode.net> Users on #emc: logger_aj k4ts les_w Jacky^ skunkworks Jymmm cncuser LawrenceG jtr_ SWP_Away fenn jtr Timbo websys icee ccjoe ValarQ djb_rh cradek steves_logging pc_op CIA-8 alex_joni bill-xm jepler @ChanServ 
22:15:52 <SWP_Away> now, that sub might be good in the theater, instead of a shaker
22:16:55 <les_w> and I thought mine were big with 2 mccauley and 3 kw
22:16:55 <Jymmm> SWP_Away I know it was installed in a car
22:17:03 <les_w> but that bgw is insane
22:17:25 <SWP_Away> oh yeah - several off the comments mentioned it
22:17:35 <SWP_Away> that doesn't make it any less stupid though ;)
22:17:40 <les_w> oh, I have been using cardomain a lot to look at car pictures so I can decide
22:18:32 <Jacky^> les_w: wich music yo like ?
22:18:37 <les_w> mine put out about 96 db at 20 hz with one watt
22:18:53 <les_w> with 3 kW, that's enough. It breaks things.
22:19:21 <Jacky^> please try Pat Coil, Sheffield Labs :, its fantastic
22:19:26 <les_w> jacky: old hippie. Play in rock band long ago.
22:19:47 <les_w> Now my son is in a rock band.
22:19:58 <Jacky^> cool 
22:20:51 <les_w> But I do not listen so loud anymore.
22:21:17 <les_w> just checked hearing...can only hear to about 13 kHz
22:21:20 <Jacky^> I just found Sheffield Labs produced a very good quality cd to test HIFI
22:21:38 <Jacky^> I got about 30 CD from them :)
22:21:48 <les_w> when I was 17 I could hear to 27 kHz
22:22:31 <Jacky^> now ? not ?
22:22:49 <les_w> but...13 kHz is about normal for my age really
22:22:56 <Jacky^> :-)
22:23:14 <k4ts> les_w:   to listen only song soft?
22:23:15 <les_w> soon...turn off the HF amps...won't need em. haha
22:23:30 <Jacky^> I could also hear low frequency before
22:23:46 <les_w> k4ts: when I played guitar long ago in a band it was very very loud
22:24:10 <Jacky^> we can hear it in our soul :)
22:24:18 <les_w> yeah
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22:35:12 <Jacky^> http://lnx.mariohifi.it/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=toprated&cat=3
22:35:18 <Jacky^> :P
22:48:24 <les_w> neat! sorry was talking to yaga on skype
22:48:30 <les_w> yuga
22:49:01 <Jacky^> nice :-)
22:49:33 <cradek> is there a linux client for that/
22:49:35 <cradek> ?
22:49:52 <Jacky^> skype for Linux ?
22:50:11 <Jacky^> sure
22:50:18 <cradek> is it open source?
22:50:26 <les_w> yes Paul uses skype with linux just fine
22:50:28 <Jacky^> I think not
22:50:39 <Jacky^> les_w: Im too
22:51:00 <Jacky^> it work good
22:51:12 <les_w> I save a lot of money with business calls with skype.
22:51:27 <Jacky^> I always use it to talk to anna
22:51:34 <les_w> very good audio quality too
22:51:34 <cradek> I'm scared of spyware when I install non-open-source but "free" stuff
22:51:40 <Jacky^> and .. sometime to call out in italy
22:51:50 <Jacky^> prices are very good
22:52:04 <les_w> yeah cradek...Paul had no problems though.
22:52:11 <Jacky^> the only issue is we have a slower upload bandwith
22:52:21 <les_w> And I autoclean spyware in this box.
22:53:05 <les_w> I doubt much adware/spyware targets Linux
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22:53:21 <cradek> hi ray
22:53:28 <les_w> hello ray
22:53:35 <cradek> alex was looking for you earlier
22:54:03 <Jacky^> hi rayh 
22:54:11 <rayh> Hi guys
22:54:28 <rayh> Thanks for the heads up.
22:54:36 <rayh> I'll hide.
22:54:45 <cradek> rayh: I know it's useless to tell you that, but I do it anyway
22:54:54 <les_w> heh
22:55:06 <Jacky^> :)
22:55:47 <rayh> rofl
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22:56:24 <rayh> Hello Jacky^ and k4ts 
22:56:31 <k4ts> ciao rayh 
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22:56:35 <k4ts> hello
22:57:08 <rayh> ciao k4ts 
22:57:45 <rayh> Got a friend setting up a wood router.  She was really impressed with the work that Jacky^ has on the site.  Good job juys.
22:58:15 <Jacky^> hehe , ty :)
22:59:01 <Jymmm> which site ray?
22:59:33 <SWP_Away> something.something.it, I think
22:59:46 <SWP_Away> oh - http://something.something.it/
23:00:15 <Jacky^> Jymmm: rayh is talking about my website :)
23:00:29 <Jymmm> Jacky^ url?
23:01:07 <Jacky^> http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/photos/lab/img010.jpeg.html
23:01:19 <k4ts> rayh: I agreed with you
23:01:20 <rayh> Jymmm: Jacky^ posted a link to some of his projects.
23:01:20 <Jacky^> you already know that .. 
23:01:44 <rayh> there it is.  I'm always late.
23:02:05 <Jymmm> Jacky^ not really, sorta kinda, that's why I asked
23:02:33 <k4ts> I like the jobs Jacky^ has done
23:02:37 <Jymmm> Jacky^ you need to take close up's of your finished work
23:03:55 <k4ts> Jymmm:  jackyis my house a Naples
23:04:01 <les_w> nice work.
23:04:01 <Jacky^> Im just impatient to start working with the new machine :(
23:04:28 <rayh> k4ts: Did you get to visit the island?
23:04:29 <k4ts> Jacky^: is vacances
23:04:39 <Jacky^> rayh: nope :(
23:04:44 <Jacky^> yet ..
23:05:06 <les_w> corsica? sardinia?
23:05:30 <Jacky^> les_w: Capri Island, about 30 min from here
23:05:30 <k4ts> capri
23:05:37 <les_w> oooh
23:05:38 <les_w> nice
23:05:45 <k4ts> very nice
23:05:47 <k4ts> les_w: 
23:06:07 <rayh> Darn you've got to get up earlier, Jacky^ 
23:06:15 <Jacky^> thats not the only island here around
23:06:32 <Jacky^> theres also Ischia (smallest)
23:06:44 <Jacky^> oh.. and Procida too
23:06:48 <Jacky^> 3 Islands
23:07:39 <rayh> I've got one island on my lake.  It's 2 meters wide and 50 meters long.
23:07:51 <Jacky^> hehe :P
23:07:58 <rayh> the island that is.  Lake is a bit bigger.
23:08:13 <k4ts> rayh:  ah ah
23:08:27 <les_w> henry island!
23:08:28 <Jacky^> Capri Island is nice, but only for Vip
23:08:37 <Jacky^> thats turistic place
23:08:53 <Jacky^> others are cheaper :)
23:09:10 <les_w> oh, I know ray's lake. It's callled...Superior.
23:09:37 <rayh> Nah "Vern" island.  Named for my dog who always had to get off and mark his territory.
23:09:45 <les_w> haha
23:10:44 <k4ts> swimming pool' rayh ?
23:11:33 <rayh> The lake is about 200 acres.  Let me look that up in a unit you might understand.
23:11:49 <Jacky^> rayh: it is a natural lake ?
23:12:08 <rayh> Yes it is.
23:12:15 <Jacky^> cool 
23:12:24 <les_w> actually I may be up at miller in a little while grabbing consulting work. I'ts in Appleton
23:12:33 <les_w> hate the paper mill smell though.
23:13:06 <rayh> Ah.  Yes the fox valley smell. 
23:13:25 <les_w> fine when the wind blows right
23:13:28 <rayh> roltec is just out of milwaukee
23:13:58 <rayh> Worked in a sawmill next to a paper mill.
23:14:09 <rayh> when the wind was wrong it would make you sick to your stomach.
23:14:37 <les_w> they ought to clean that up. Fox valley is otherwise very nice
23:14:50 <Jacky^> rayh: this is Capri http://www.spaghettitaliani.com/Foto/Foto000076.html
23:14:58 <rayh> It is beautiful in places.
23:15:14 <Jacky^> just the east side of the sland 
23:15:52 <Jacky^> looks like a wild island
23:15:58 <les_w> wow
23:16:01 <les_w> very nice
23:16:07 <Jacky^> yeah :)
23:16:09 <rayh> Can't take pictures around here now.  It's all white.
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23:17:25 <Jacky^> les_w: http://www.spaghettitaliani.com/Foto/Foto000077.html
23:17:38 <rayh> Do they allow climbing on those rocks?
23:17:49 <Jacky^> I just hope to go there for a day before comes back to my home ..
23:17:59 <SWP_Away> It looks like you need to ask the rocks, not the government ;)
23:18:30 <rayh> you saw that also eh SWP_Away 
23:18:51 <Jacky^> rayh: I think is possible to climb it too :)
23:18:52 <SWP_Away> yup
23:19:01 <rayh> I climbed on three fingered jack in oregon.
23:19:14 <rayh> looked a lot like that sort of loose rock.
23:19:31 <Jacky^> some beach area is vips reserved during the summer
23:20:41 <k4ts>   jacky go his home!
23:20:43 <k4ts> sigh
23:21:01 <Jacky^> as well, many house there are of peoples as soccer players, singer, actors, etc.. :/
23:21:11 <les_w> well, I must prepare dinner
23:21:14 <les_w> later all
23:21:24 <k4ts> good dinner
23:21:25 <Jacky^> later les_w 
23:21:26 <k4ts> les_w: 
23:21:29 <les_w> ty
23:22:45 <Jymmm> les_w: I'll be right over for dinner, anything I should bring?
23:23:29 <Jacky^> a good drink :P
23:23:47 <k4ts> dolci
23:23:55 <k4ts> plum cake
23:23:57 <Jacky^> a good californian wine , I know you got it there :)
23:24:05 <Jacky^> hehe
23:24:08 <Jymmm> * Jymmm doens't drink wine
23:24:09 <Jacky^> kidding 
23:24:17 <Jacky^> ;P
23:24:28 <Jacky^> good dinner
23:24:37 <SWP_Away> just have some berries with cream and Mascobado sugar sprinkled on top
23:24:57 <SWP_Away> for dessert, that is
23:27:30 <k4ts> http://www.ndonio.it/Napoli%20dolci.htm
23:27:51 <rayh> catch you all later. 
23:27:55 <SWP_Away> see ya
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23:27:57 <Jacky^> bye rayh 
23:28:26 <k4ts> http://www.sfogliatella.it/
23:46:20 <Jacky^> G night 
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23:56:18 <k4ts> night
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