00:09:34 hahaha 00:09:46 finally a good new http://www.microsoftkid.com/ 00:11:02 this guy has maded his first website at 3 years old 00:11:47 gates sayd I want to know him, weve mani common things 00:12:03 LOL 00:13:57 i want to ask to that guy if he really has never steal to Xerox/HP/Apple 00:14:02 :D 00:14:58 lerman has joined #emc 00:22:34 http://axis.unpy.net/index.cgi/downloads/01136852163 00:23:56 (axis 1.1.1rc1) 00:25:13 jepler: nice :) 00:26:14 thanks 00:31:11 oops, there's a serious problem with 1.1.1rc1. 00:31:41 uh ? 00:32:03 I made a change without testing it 00:32:13 heheh 00:32:14 and I always make mistakes 00:32:21 yeah 00:32:31 "this is clearly right, I just copied it from another file" (and left out some critical punctuation) 00:32:53 you no need to make test user exist for this :P 00:33:46 If you find a bug youre before the users youre really good 00:34:23 If you find a bug before the users then youre really good * 00:34:46 :D 00:38:37 OK, now it's 1.1.1rc2 .. 00:38:39 maybe it's even usable 00:39:24 :-) 00:44:22 Jacky^ is now known as Jacky^afk 00:58:48 jtr has quit 01:00:34 jtr has joined #emc 01:01:26 roltek has joined #emc 01:06:37 roltek has quit 01:27:51 Jymmm has quit 01:42:03 so where do I find the latest BDI? 01:42:11 last time I tried I got something not the latest 01:53:44 lerman has quit 01:53:53 lerman has joined #emc 01:58:33 djb_rh: try http://dsplabs.cs.utt.ro/~juve/emc/ - there's a link for BDI 4.38 02:19:59 jtr has quit 02:30:35 lerman has quit 02:32:26 Jacky^afk has quit 02:35:31 Jacky^afk has joined #emc 02:36:34 jtr has joined #emc 03:04:03 petev has joined #emc 03:07:53 petev has left #emc 03:18:32 petev has joined #emc 03:19:29 petev has left #emc 03:20:23 petev has joined #emc 03:20:46 petev has left #emc 03:24:39 petev has joined #emc 04:03:18 petev_ has joined #emc 04:04:45 petev_ has left #emc 04:09:39 it's not going well for petev 04:12:26 or petev_ 04:19:14 testing some new irc clients 04:19:26 think this one (virc) is ok 04:19:27 ah 04:19:47 now I don't have to have the linux box up to monitor irc 04:36:45 have you not tried chatzilla (part of mozilla, or an add-on for firefox)? 04:37:02 no, I'm still using explorer 04:37:15 ok 04:37:26 chatzilla is pretty good 04:37:30 I had mirc and the gaim plugin 04:37:37 and it's the same on windows or Linux (as far as possible) 04:37:46 but for some reason the freenode server wont allow them 04:38:13 odd - were you trying to connect to irc.freenode.net or chat.freenode.net 04:38:26 to icr.freenode.net 04:38:36 it gave some error message about the version of client 04:38:48 they disabled irc.freenode net due to some spambots, so you should use chat.freenode net instead 04:38:57 the gaim plugin would be my first choice as I have it running most of the time for other stuff 04:39:21 hmm, I'm on irc.freenode.net now 04:39:54 strange 04:40:21 they had some messages about it a few weeks ago, maybe their new filtering is good enough that they can have it on 04:40:43 ie, re-enable irc.freenode.net 04:40:58 do u run cygwin on your doze box? 04:41:13 sometimes 04:41:35 I just upgraded to the latest and fixed a bunch of bugs to get some cross compiler stuff going 04:41:46 however, my DISPLAY variable isn't set now 04:41:57 I never used to set it in .bashrc 04:42:01 did you upgrade cygwin-X? 04:42:18 but I can't find anyplace in the cygwin stuff that it should go/ or was 04:42:25 yes, complete re-install 04:42:34 had plenty of problems 04:42:49 none of the postinstall stuff worked well and there were clear bugs 04:42:51 ok. I know on my machine that Cygwin (bash) and Cygwin (X) were different installs 04:43:10 hmm, I use the cygwin setup.exe 04:43:16 it's kinda like apt-get 04:43:20 do you get the X icon in your systray? 04:43:31 you select packages for install/remove, etc. 04:43:38 yes - I've used it 04:43:43 yes, the server is running fine 04:44:04 I can get a window to if I manually set DISPLAY then run xhost + 04:45:20 I note that there's no DISPLAY variable set if I run a "normal" cygwin terminal, even with X running 04:45:30 DISPLAY is set in the xterm though 04:45:35 really 04:46:01 and I can't manually run an xterm from the standard shell (no DISPLAY) 04:46:12 I guess I can just stick it in .bashrc and be done with it 04:46:39 do you get an xterm when you run X? 04:46:54 yes 04:47:08 which I promptly close 04:47:09 and DISPLAY isn't set there? 04:47:21 I'm going to take it out of the startup file 04:47:22 ok - you should run another terminal from there if you want DISPLAY to be set 04:47:41 yeah, but the xterm is launched on my local machine 04:47:53 I usually launch one on the linux box 04:48:01 that's the whole reason for using X 04:48:34 sure, but you need an ssh session that has "access" to cygwin-X 04:48:50 so just run that from the xterm 04:48:53 I make an icon on my desk that does something like 04:49:24 ssh 192.168.100.133 xterm -display 192.168.100.134 04:49:48 then the ssh just launches an xterm and I'm good to go 04:50:22 right, assuming that the local Cygwin apps know anything about X ;) 04:50:49 no, all that needs to be running is the cygwin X server 04:51:02 the xterm command is run on the linux box via ssh 04:51:16 I don't really use any of the local X apps 04:51:43 ah - right 04:52:07 you'd need xhost +192.168.0.133 anyway 04:52:27 yeah, I'm lazy, I put xhost + in the X startup 04:52:46 that does make it easier 04:53:17 at one point I had reserved IP addrs for all my machines 04:53:38 but one by one they got upgraded and I couldn't be bothered to put the new MAC addrs in the DHCP 04:53:50 so now I don't always get the same IP 04:57:43 oh yeah, I almost forgot (not sure if I mentioned it already) 04:57:51 Embedded systems conference is in San Jose this year 04:58:07 April 3-8 or some such 05:00:26 petev_ has joined #emc 05:15:43 petev has quit 05:20:59 petev_ has left #emc 05:21:00 petev_ has joined #emc 06:08:49 petev_ has left #emc 06:09:09 petev has joined #emc 06:12:01 petev has quit 07:14:32 jtr has quit 07:15:11 jtr has joined #emc 07:41:47 Jacky^afk has quit 07:46:38 Jacky^afk has joined #emc 07:47:52 Jacky^afk is now known as Jacky^ 07:48:11 morning 08:41:06 Jacky^_ has joined #emc 08:42:19 Jacky^ has quit 08:43:55 fenn has quit 08:44:29 fenn has joined #emc 10:29:02 fenn_ has joined #emc 10:31:14 fenn has quit 10:39:39 cncuser has joined #emc 10:39:46 good morning folks 10:43:49 morning 10:44:48 hi alex_joni 10:47:01 fenn_ is now known as fenn 10:47:29 hi fenn 10:47:36 g'day 10:47:42 go to bed fenn ;) 10:47:47 what time is it over there? 10:47:59 i'm an honorary member of australia 10:48:28 this arvo i'm hacking an ai 10:49:00 this whole joining strings in python is bunk 10:51:25 australia? 10:51:47 welcome to the glorious planet of australia 10:52:01 huh.. thought you were in the US.. 10:52:10 i am in the us 10:52:29 * alex_joni is lost completely.. 10:52:45 i might as well be in australia since i wake up at 11pm indiana time 10:53:03 maybe for some us cititzens australia=austria=somewhere behind kentucky ;) 10:53:53 heh didn't mean to imply that austria was australia 10:54:03 i'm talking to a bunch of australians on another channel 10:55:53 fenn: i know ;) its just something ive stepped over some times when beeing asked where im from ;) no no kangaroos in austria ;) 10:56:24 just woke up, my funnyengine isnt fully started 11:00:02 damit, messed ub unionfs again :( lucky me its just a qemu session 11:01:00 i keep on putting unionfs in a state where its not usable at all...the only thing i can do then is reboot :( 11:08:07 well.. reboot :P 11:09:14 alex_joni: allready done ;) lucky me its just a qemu session. but when it happens on the hostmachine i dont have any clou how to fix it. theres some messed up mounts that cant be unmounted... at least i havent figured out how 11:10:07 btw. i just finished the develhowto (redid all steps and fixed the bugs) also i made up a bbunch of stupid bashscripts for brainless reproduction :) 11:10:34 im begging for a account on one of cooltools servers to put it online :) 11:11:08 alex_joni: do you want to host that too ? 11:11:42 lets see how well abiword converts its native format into html :) 11:15:17 uhh, looks crappy :( 11:21:05 cncuser: I can host it.. 11:21:59 alex_joni: cool, i put togther a tarball..mom 11:22:28 dcc it over when finished 11:23:04 hmm, that would not be possible i think... ive a rather locked down firewall and am to lazy to change the ruleset ;) 11:23:12 i put it online on my server 11:23:20 ok, good too 12:35:53 anonimasu has joined #emc 12:35:56 hello 12:36:09 alex_joni: there? 12:40:13 hello 12:42:21 http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/mastering/mastering.html 12:43:01 if anyone is bored and has ~gb free diskspace. should take 2 hours on a descent pc :) 12:43:18 ~2gb 12:44:13 nice 12:44:19 : 12:44:21 :) 12:44:29 want me to mirror that? 12:44:38 alex_joni: would be cool 12:44:43 ok, hand on.. 12:44:49 I think this would be best on the wiki 12:45:06 alex_joni: yes i think too. i tried once, but had no write access 12:45:33 ok, let me do that.. 12:45:40 you da man :)) 12:45:56 may I mention your name? :P 12:46:02 shure, cncuser ;) 12:46:03 Jacky^_ has quit 12:47:08 alex_joni: id prefer cncuser :) for i get the creeps if i google for my names and emailadresses and get hunderds of hits representing my interests during the last 6 years. 12:48:35 alex_joni: i worked for a marketingcompany once. i know datamining :( 12:52:35 hmm 12:53:03 im thinking if i should start doing the livecdsmasteringstuff right away or if i should make a break 12:53:39 livecdsmasteringstuff? 12:54:29 alex_joni: yes, to make the install (described in the howto) into packages and filesystemimages. compress them. remove unneeded stuf... to put it into a ~50mb iso and run it with 128mb ram :) 12:54:41 thats the goal 12:54:49 i think im 80% there 12:55:15 removing the python stuff will be the hardest. 12:55:38 i plan another 6 hours on python 12:55:59 the rest is peanuts :) 12:56:13 building a puppy iso is easy as easy can be 12:59:01 if all works out as expected, it should be a selfrunner, some bugfixes, with a wickihowto thats no problem :) a guy at cooltool is catching up on linux and emc and is going to make future usersupport via forum and email. 12:59:58 btw peanuts 13:00:05 nice 13:00:50 btw, to add stuff to wiki.linuxcnc.org read http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BasicSteps 13:01:30 ic 13:01:40 ok, be back in 30minutes 13:18:26 skunkworks has joined #emc 14:10:48 skunkworks has quit 15:28:33 Jacky^ has joined #emc 15:30:39 back 15:42:21 * alex_joni too ;) 15:42:27 just installed a 4.38 15:44:25 darn.. 15:44:40 something is wrong here.. can't send Alt+foo over ssh 15:48:23 using xterm? 15:48:33 I think so.. 15:48:37 it's started by xfce 15:49:17 yes, it's xterm 15:49:42 XTerm*metaSendsEscape:true 15:49:56 try setting this X resource 15:50:03 and restart xterm 15:50:39 think it's xfterm4, from looking at the icon link (but xterm appears in ps aux) 15:50:50 how do I set that? 15:51:06 put it in a file ~/.Xresources 15:51:13 xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources 15:51:24 then arrange for that to happen when you start X 15:51:49 (I know nothing about xfce, klogin, etc) 15:53:02 yay, it works now :) 15:53:05 thanks a lot 15:53:12 welcome 15:53:24 still looking how to get a list of installed packages ;) 15:53:45 I think there's a list in the bdi4 wiki 15:53:51 aptitude works ok.. 15:53:59 no I selected a minimal subset of those 15:54:08 did you see paul's message about building emc2 on bdi4.38? 15:55:02 yes 15:56:46 skunkworks has joined #emc 16:26:29 skunkworks has quit 16:38:17 hmm 16:39:41 * alex_joni goes away for a while.. 16:40:04 alex_joni: bye, i changed the txt version

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16:44:11 hmm where is that magical preferences link where one could login into the wiki ? 16:44:21 ah got it 16:46:12 how do i login ? 16:46:17 hmm 16:53:52 whats the trick with login in ? 16:54:51 ok, ill ask alex 16:58:02 you need the magic password 16:58:09 i know the magic password 16:58:14 i dont see any way to login 16:58:18 i registered a user 16:58:20 all ok 16:58:22 preferences 16:58:26 where ????? 16:58:34 UserName Cncuser saved. 16:58:34 Password changed. 16:58:34 Administrator password changed. 16:58:35 User has editor abilities. 16:58:35 Server time: January 10, 2006 8:57 am 16:58:35 Local time: January 10, 2006 8:57 am 16:58:37 Preferences saved. 16:58:39 should be on any wiki page 16:58:47 where ? 16:58:50 i use lynx 16:58:58 ok, now re-navigate to the page you want to change 16:59:02 a i use firefox, but i try lynx 16:59:07 for i dont trust firefox 16:59:14 hmmm - can you use windowed, scrollable text edit boxes with lynx? 16:59:48 damn, internal server errors 16:59:48 you have to re-load the page (if lynx caches), because the edit link won't be there in the cached version 16:59:52 sf is fucking up 17:01:03 ok 17:01:07 had to close firefox 17:01:12 all instances ;) 17:01:13 ok, cvs errors 17:01:35 some mirrored cvs would be nice, for checkouts 17:01:55 sf is fucking up 70% the time i try to access their cvs 17:02:16 anonymous or logged in? 17:02:22 anonymous 17:02:51 maybe you should register on sf - the developer cvs access uses different servers, and the updates are faster 17:03:04 (ie, changes are immediate, not delayed like with anonymous access) 17:03:17 2 days ago for example there was a cant write to /tmp/.... error coming from the server :) 17:03:59 yeah, thats what the goal is obviously, get rid of anonymous users :( 17:04:08 skunkworks has joined #emc 17:04:13 heh - I don't think so, but could be :) 17:07:09 It has been getting worse for me also over the last month 17:07:46 have to try 10 times before it connects 17:08:03 or so ;) 17:08:21 skunkworks: yes the same her :) 17:08:56 well, developer access has been fine ... :) 17:09:35 nice ;) 17:09:42 that's one reason I insist on running my own CVS for AXIS 17:09:52 (of course, I don't allow any anonymous users..) 17:10:04 (but it's great for me, very reliable) 17:10:09 jepler: want to mirror emc ? :) 17:11:09 not really 17:11:13 : 17:11:38 hmm, maybe theres a way to get a virtualhost for such thing 17:11:42 ill ask 17:13:26 If I am set up as a user on source forge - could I log in as that user? 17:13:42 I think you would have to be registered as an emc developer 17:13:47 darn 17:14:46 4. Error type: 500 17:14:46 5. Request method: GET 17:14:46 6. Request query string: action=edit&id 17:14:47 ... 17:14:49 damit 17:14:53 hit refresh a dozen times 17:14:59 i did :( 17:15:06 try another dozen 17:15:06 but now even that doesnt help anymore 17:15:08 haha 17:15:08 oh 17:15:11 brute force 17:15:21 seems the server allready is on his knees ;) 17:15:34 yeah it's probably all those people hitting refresh a dozen times 17:15:39 harhar ;) 17:15:47 ;) 18:16:11 Jymmm has joined #emc 18:26:26 [Global Notice] Hi all. For reference, MacWorld coverage: #apple-x in English, #macbidouille en Francais 18:26:59 mac spam 18:27:46 heh now... I like Hormel Spam (tm), dont be dissin it by micing in McDonalds 18:27:52 mixing 18:28:05 (yes, I saw the wallops) 18:28:36 spam brrr 18:29:05 isnt spam the things muncht up that are not allowed to be put in dogfood ? 18:29:33 i dont trust beeflikestuff in a can :) 18:29:43 It's Spice Ham 18:30:01 SPiced hAM == Spam 18:30:10 Shredded Pigs And More 18:30:15 yes 18:30:26 and as long as the seal isn't broken, it's shelflife is forever 18:30:36 good stuff 18:30:38 i get meat at the lokal slaufghtery 18:30:46 or at the meat market 18:31:38 Jymmm: things that last forever cant have any good stuff in it ;) 18:31:55 well, enough meal facism 18:31:57 :) 18:31:58 cncuser Most things, no. Spam being the exception. 18:32:17 jymm: haha, whatever ;) 18:32:48 fresh food is good. rhyms == good, pumuckl 18:33:49 Is it a 18oz steak with grilled onions and mushrooms, no. But for what it is, it's good stuff! 18:34:47 well junkfood != bad tasting food ;) 18:35:40 I wouldn't consider spam as junk food, more along the lines of a can of refried beans or spaghetti sauce. Just processed is all. 18:38:53 ;) 18:39:00 cu lator, im off for a beer 18:39:05 cncuser has quit 18:39:08 have one for me too 18:47:23 spam spam spam spam spam - ham bacon and spam - eggs bacon and spam spam. 18:51:55 [Global Notice] At the same time Macworld Expo started, FSF announced the addition of Gnash, a flash player and firefox plugin ( http://tinyurl.com/a6mev ).... it's one of the FSF's priority projects ( http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html ) and a real FOSS milestone 18:58:40 [Global Notice] (sorry, I think we nailed that news site....here's the release on the Gnash flash player and firefox plugin: http://www.fsf.org/news/gnash.html ) 18:58:50 [Global Notice] Thank you for using freenode, and have a great evening! 19:03:46 A-L-P-H-A has quit 19:04:01 SWP_Away has quit 19:27:30 klick has quit 19:29:29 skunkworks has quit 19:36:35 SWP_Away has joined #emc 19:58:01 hi Jymmm 19:58:48 you there ? 20:05:33 solved :) 20:07:37 hello all 20:07:52 hi alex_joni 20:12:15 what's up? 20:13:51 replyng to some forum post 20:18:53 I'm off to try to get the 4.38 online ;) 20:20:22 have a fun :P 20:56:28 ok.. seems it's working ;) 20:56:39 as you can see :P 20:58:14 * alex_joni likes xfce 21:00:36 ok.. I'm gone ;) 21:00:41 too much work :P 21:11:50 hehe :) 21:15:34 I was using evilwm, now im playng with Ion3 on the laptop, im entusiast 21:15:50 very intelligent positioning windows wm 21:16:34 I just had some difficult using Gimp, as you know open a lot of windows, layers, etc 21:17:16 where Ion use to take all free space on monitor 21:19:19 lokking at LILO suggest .. it seem Gnash plugin for firefox has been released .. 21:19:23 looking 21:21:44 It is the most advanced free flash player that currently exists, and an important addition to the GNU project 21:21:48 wow :P 21:22:55 anyone want a cool flash site ? http://www.mksite.com/ 21:23:01 :D 21:38:48 hm 21:38:49 hey 21:39:03 hi anonimasu 21:39:08 what's up? 21:39:34 writing a letter to a friend :P 21:39:40