00:00:27 command position with -inf, speed will -inf, likewise accell, etc 00:00:55 er, why not just stop? 00:01:26 because it's not exciting enough? 00:01:30 everyone can stop.. 00:01:36 * alex_joni_ can't :D 00:02:20 dmessier has quit 00:02:23 heh.. software engineering: http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39152715,00.htm 00:05:39 woo, fixed the nan stuff 00:05:54 cradek: you're too quick.. 00:05:55 it's alive!! 00:06:07 if you keep the pace it'll be finished this year 00:06:34 roltek has joined #emc 00:06:41 there's no accel or stop yet - it just plows along at the requested velocity no matter what 00:06:56 I opened up my following limits pretty wide 00:09:03 huh.. no accel? :D 00:09:10 sounds exciting 00:09:14 oh I'm sure there's lots of it 00:09:15 you mean infinite accell 00:09:20 yeah 00:09:22 in theory at least 00:09:44 actually stepgen might be limiting it, I'm not sure 00:09:56 integrating it 00:10:00 should work ti the limits of mechanical structure... cool... then turn it bac 1 notch 00:10:22 dmess: sometimes it's too late to do that 00:10:23 :D 00:11:01 gotta make smoke to find the limits folks ... HAPPY NEW YEAR... 00:11:24 dmess: Happy new year 00:13:17 hows the weather lookin for the turning of the new year in your locales 00:13:52 dmess: the year already turned here 00:13:58 the leap second is in place 00:14:33 and weather is cold, which makes the snow stay in place .) 00:14:39 what time there?? 00:14:44 2:14 am 00:14:49 1.1.2006 ;) 00:15:19 we just got some new snow last nite 00:15:41 hrmm.. can't update time from time.nist.gov 00:15:46 so it looks white at least 00:15:48 it says peer not synchronized 00:16:02 darn, I missed the leap second 00:16:04 oh well 00:16:49 you'll get a fresh one in summer 00:17:08 my sons all perplexed by a leap second concept 00:19:22 heh 00:19:30 but he figures there should be more than 2 per yr to make up a day after 4 yrs 00:19:57 hes his MOTHERS child... the smart one... ; ) 00:20:17 LOL, I updated my clock from time.windows.com, as time.nist.gov barfed 00:20:24 and it is 1 second behind :D 00:20:33 how can you tell? 00:20:49 I compared it to a linux pc which could ntpdate 00:21:33 oh wait, it's the other way around 00:21:43 your loking for the second.... im looking for the inch... 00:21:54 or the millimeter 00:22:49 some people add a "leap-kilo" every six months 00:23:21 or even faster 00:24:17 this new job made me add odds and evens KILO in the last 6 mo. 00:25:03 i was only this heavy when i was wrestling at age 19 00:25:54 dmess: so you can say you're just like you were when you were 19 00:26:29 kinda i guess... not working in a mine now though... 00:27:05 my knees were still good then too 00:29:01 dmess: we're all getting older 00:29:09 that's better than the alternative 00:29:17 and that's not enough.. others are adding extra seconds to our age :D 00:30:00 i dont like to believe in time.... only in tomorrow... 00:30:36 cradek: which is.. ? 00:31:30 today maay be it.. live you life guys... do what you want to do... and enjoy the smiles along the way.. 00:31:54 dmess: and never look back ;) 00:32:07 or regret anything 00:32:28 remember the smilin' times... for they are what you do it for 00:33:03 regret is a bad decision ..leading to a lost option 00:33:26 i resolve to be perfect, forever 00:33:54 if you TRY.. its a start... 00:34:15 it's all a matter of picking your goals 00:34:25 once you perform a while.. YOU EXPECT it 00:34:56 the alternative ISNT an option 00:35:31 DO YOUR BEST.... the old cub scout moto 00:36:19 & BE PREPARED ... the old scout moto 00:37:04 hope for the best and expect the worste... anything in between we can deal with 00:37:44 have low expectations, then you'll be happy all the time :D 00:38:05 because you'll always have exceeded your expectations .) 00:38:09 kidding.. 00:38:11 alex_joni: that's what I was saying, but dmess didnt get it 00:38:35 actually life is a fragile balancing act 00:39:00 i did... i just shoot for the stars... once i got the moon... that was cool 00:39:32 but your right if you never try you never fail 00:39:49 perfec score 00:48:51 skunkworks has joined #emc 00:55:04 les_w has joined #emc 00:58:41 hi les 00:58:48 Greetings from 2006 ;) 00:59:38 cradek: still around chris? 01:02:01 5 hours to midnight 01:02:12 skunkworks: and counting :D 01:03:27 whats it like in the future? 01:03:37 skunkworks: dark 01:03:46 except for my laptop screen it's all dark 01:03:54 that doesn't sound good ;) 01:03:56 so the future is bright only in here :D 01:09:03 happy new year alex 01:09:11 same to you les 01:10:41 well the new year means getting back to work on the research projects 01:10:57 I took off a couple weeks because everyone else did 01:13:42 ha #newyears is crazy 01:14:04 it's ok, only kiddies today :( 01:18:01 Note the left column "Popular Searches" http://people.howstuffworks.com/becoming-a-doctor.htm 01:24:02 Jymmm: bounty hunting? 01:24:18 doctor, bounty hunter, same diff 01:25:01 and witchcraft :P 01:25:09 it was all the dark stuff that got my attention. 01:25:22 Dreams? 01:26:05 halloween, tarot, witchcraft, creationism.... people "searching" for somethign to believe in. 01:26:28 and dont forget modern medicine 01:26:40 thats not in the list 01:27:35 finished my camera webpage :D 01:27:38 http://dsplabs.cs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/photography 01:28:57 The real reward, he says, is the adrenaline rush that comes from making an arrest. Burton refers to it as "adrenadollars" -- "For every buck we make arresting someone, we make $1,000 in adrenadollars." 01:29:27 fenn: huh? 01:29:48 bounty hunter quote 01:30:03 heh 01:31:25 this guy has the biggest mullet i've ever seen 01:31:56 what's a mullet? 01:32:11 alex_joni hair style from the 80's 01:32:12 i knew you'd ask that 01:32:26 alex_joni long in the back, short everywhere else. 01:32:28 favorite hair style of rednecks 01:32:29 also a fish I like to catch 01:32:36 fenn: not my fault I'm not native to those awkward expressions :D 01:32:39 lol @ les_w 01:32:52 alex_joni watch MTV 01:33:05 Jymmm: I would.. but they took it away :((( 01:33:15 now it's MTV romania, and it SUX big time 01:34:05 my christmas present to myself http://www.photoflex.com/photoflex/index.html 01:35:03 what did you get? 01:35:20 a lighting backdrop? 01:35:48 damn frames... http://www.photoflex.com/photoflex/index.html?products/default.asp?product=shoemount&1 01:35:53 there are some other kits at the bottom :) 01:36:44 Jymmm: you could have made that 01:36:46 easily 01:37:04 alex_joni wrong 01:37:24 if you say so.. 01:38:58 blah. No new year parties. Why? No people here. 01:39:07 alex_joni http://www.photoflex.com/photoflex/products/shoemount/specs/shoeMountComps.html 01:40:59 anyways ;) 01:41:09 if you like it.. enjoy it 01:41:31 Jymmm has quit 01:42:34 les_w: we said we'd come over 01:42:41 but you didn't say anything.. 01:57:21 01:58:04 dmess: say again? 01:58:12 or was that all to it? 02:10:26 sorry that was the brainiac son... we're off to some friends to ring in the new year... bbl 02:10:42 * alex_joni_ will probably be asleep 02:10:49 so Happy New YEARS 02:11:11 merci ... ) 02:11:31 a plus tard 02:12:10 and too all. the best to you and yours... may all your dreams and asperatins ...not choke you.. 02:18:22 hi all 02:18:42 hey chris.. almost midnight over there 02:18:50 2 more hours right? 02:20:44 no, only 20:20 here 02:21:08 I can't believe you're not asleep by now... 02:21:12 ahh.. ok, bad math this late ;) 02:21:22 only 4:20 here :D 02:35:12 night all, have a great 2006 02:39:23 alex_joni_ has quit 02:59:16 ValarQ has quit 03:05:34 RifRaf_ has joined #emc 03:14:48 robin_sz has joined #emc 03:14:54 meep? 03:15:07 did anyone observe the leap second? 03:15:35 I missed it... 03:15:57 but my clocks are off ntp by a second 03:16:15 heh :) 03:17:23 presumably they will slew in ... 03:24:43 21:24 03:25:20 RifRaf has quit 03:41:43 robin_sz has quit 03:43:19 anyone using the 4.38 bdi? I am using the 4.3 - whats new? 03:43:39 I saw release notes somewhere... 03:43:51 I remember there's a new AXIS build 03:43:55 but you already have that of course 03:45:27 I might - (did a install on a new computer last week) - your site is on my favorites ;) 04:16:42 ValarQ has joined #emc 04:19:31 03cradek 07simple_tp * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/ (tc.c tc.h tp.c): 04:19:31 simple_tp is alive: run, abort, feed override, step, etc all working. 04:19:31 no accel yet. don't try this on a machine. 04:23:53 great work - shouldn't you be out celebrating? 04:24:21 nah, it's just another day 04:24:25 ;) 04:24:42 drinking wine with the wife and watching suzi orman 04:24:52 sho is suzi orman? 04:24:53 w 04:25:01 dan_falck has quit 04:25:26 financial show. wife likes it - I almost can 04:25:32 can't stand her 04:25:43 suzi, or the wife? 04:25:56 ;) 04:26:05 that'll be fixed in English 2.0 04:26:17 suzi 04:26:27 right, I was kidding 04:26:49 we still have eggnog - maybe we'll have some at midnight 04:26:57 I know 04:27:34 I think when I add accel this can be used in real life 04:27:39 good. I am not known for my spelling or punctuation 04:27:52 not sure it has any practical use 04:28:00 cool. alex seemed excited about what you are doing 04:28:07 I guess it will give correct results when the old tp gave bogus blending 04:28:17 axes with very different accels for instance 04:28:22 try it sometime :-P 04:29:22 I probably will. 04:29:24 thanks 04:29:45 I mean the old tp with very different accels 04:29:51 it's very bogus 04:30:09 well - my accelerations must not be too differnt for it to matter 04:30:25 5 vs 12 04:30:56 your fix really helped though - now I can run them different accels. 04:31:07 cool 04:31:11 I tried 20 and .2 I think 04:31:20 you get a totally bogus trajectory 04:31:57 I know you said on multible axis moves the accelleration would be less than it should 04:32:13 I have not noticed it yet though. 04:32:14 that's right, it is 04:32:24 it would probably be hard to notice 04:32:43 you would have to set your [TRAJ] accel above 12 to get it anyway (if it worked) 04:33:11 [TRAJ] accel is the tool tip's accel, which can obviously be higher than any axis's accel 04:33:27 by sqrt(3) for 3 axes I think (0,0,0 to 1,1,1) 04:33:42 it seems like a good time to get into emc2 - lots of things happening. 04:33:58 yeah, lots of old bugs are getting weeded out, which is nice 04:34:27 right. - I really like axis also. I will say it again - nice job. 04:34:37 thanks, I really appreciate that 04:35:44 I've wanted to write that gui ever since I started using cnc 04:36:15 I'm glad Jeff and I were smart enough, together, to do it 04:36:25 dmess has quit 04:36:49 ;) - how did you meet jeff? wife like your cats ;) (I think they are yours) 04:37:07 one of my two is pictured on timeguy.com 04:37:15 if you're on unpy.net, those are probably jeff's cats 04:37:34 I've known jeff since ... junior high, I think 04:37:46 we're almost the same age and were in school together for a while 04:38:50 thats cool - I barley remember the people I knew in high school. It was a me generation. everyone did there own thing. 04:39:08 we actually went to different high schools 04:39:59 I read once that if you look at photos of parties you have had over the years, and they show the same people but getting older and older, you're doing something right 04:40:10 he's one of that kind of friend 04:41:15 that is great. 04:42:54 I can't say that. Other than my wife - my family is really the only "friends" I have. Other than online I don't know anyone that has the interests I do. 04:43:23 that's a shame - it's true very few people are interested in the kinds of things we are. 04:44:10 many, many people spend all their time watching TV or buying trinkets at walmart... 04:44:36 I hear you. 04:44:47 as I sit here watching tv ;) 04:44:50 it's interesting that free software can sometimes pull the do-ers together 04:44:51 haha 04:45:08 some TV is ok - only TV is not. 04:45:39 I am not as good a programmer as I wish. lately it has been access for work aplication. db 04:45:58 I hear access is pretty bad... 04:46:15 yah - it gets the job done for cheap though 04:46:28 fwiw I don't think of myself as a programmer either, but I can program when I put my mind to it 04:46:36 you're probably the same I bet 04:46:38 same here 04:47:27 if I put my mind to it I can fumble through a lot. (writen some pretty wicked stuff when I needed to) 04:48:10 I actually looked at some of the interp stuff - but I would need a few weeks to get used to it. 04:48:43 that's because it was written by rabid monkeys or something 04:48:48 I've never seen stranger C 04:48:49 it has been a while since I have had to worry about lib 04:49:12 libs 04:49:23 what do you mean libs? 04:49:37 libraries (c) 04:49:40 ah 04:49:59 compiling/linking and all that comes with it is something you have to learn on top of C 04:50:20 but for making small changes you usually don't have to mess with that much 04:50:33 if you have questions ask! 04:50:47 thanks 04:51:46 well - I think the wine is getting to me. I will end this now before I start mumbling. (if I haven't already) 04:51:54 ok, goodnight 04:52:45 night 04:56:42 skunkworks has quit 05:08:06 03cradek 07simple_tp * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/tp.c: documentation 05:11:34 happy new year cradek 05:11:56 thanks 05:11:57 you too 05:12:05 thanks 05:12:09 we're not quite there yet here 05:12:24 ah - you're on central time? 05:12:27 yes 05:52:20 djb_rh__ has joined #emc 05:54:07 djb_rh_ has quit 06:30:00 RifRaf_ is now known as RifRaf 06:46:05 Jymmm has joined #emc 07:00:51 Jymmm has quit 07:57:34 t4c0 has joined #emc 07:57:40 I have a question: why Linux? 08:13:10 t4c0 has quit 09:09:00 RifRaf_ has joined #emc 09:10:07 RifRaf has quit 09:45:44 RifRaf_ is now known as RifRaf 11:37:20 t4: because we can 11:37:30 oh poop he left 11:48:41 robin_sz has joined #emc 12:20:47 robin_sz has quit 12:58:52 robin_sz has joined #emc 13:04:18 lerman has quit 13:53:50 djb_rh___ has joined #emc 13:55:27 djb_rh__ has quit 14:21:41 wb9mjn-servo has joined #emc 14:21:59 Happy New Year ! 14:49:53 roltek has quit 15:03:12 wb9mjn-servo has quit 15:06:58 skunkworks has joined #emc 15:20:39 djb_rh___ has quit 15:22:07 djb_rh has joined #emc 15:23:06 Hi all.... 15:23:16 Got one of those dumb questions... 15:23:19 happy new year 15:23:22 In windows a .bat file just works... 15:23:42 In Linux how does one get a script file to execute >?????????????????? 15:23:54 Happy New Year ! 15:24:48 damn - for a second I thought it was going to be a microsoft question. 15:24:55 If you type in the script file name it just says command not found... 15:25:22 Well...windows is so straightforward to use...I hardly ever get stuck for an hour on something like this... 15:25:48 ;) glad I am not the only one. I am not used to linux yet. 15:26:04 In Linux, well, I have spent tens of hours on such simple stuff....I think they call it "tribal knowledge" that unless you have worked in a Unix/Linux organisation you just do not get... 15:26:59 And I live in Naperville, IL, with one of the highest number of UNIX programmers in the USA !!! 15:27:04 Lucent... 15:27:35 But have never worked there...or anywhere where Unix is used... 15:28:12 Trying to mess around with Dean Hedlins NCUTILS ... 15:28:36 we have a bunch of macs at work and that would be the closest. I only am involved when they are stumped. 15:30:39 I just did some looking on the debian web pages for "how to run a script" and there was all this stuff that came back on using scripts to do something... 15:31:10 But I could not find anything on how to actually get one of these things to actually execute... 15:33:43 I guess when it comes to just getting things done, its hard to beat Lab-View....it autocompiles as you write it.... 15:34:04 ;) emc2 is run by script - that is run sudo. sudo scripts/emc.run 15:34:29 but when I goofed around making it a "shortcut" (microsoft terms) I could not get it to work 15:34:40 I tried sudo demo (name of the scripts is demo.sh) ... 15:34:43 (didn't try too hard though) 15:36:02 tried demo ,,,,, run demo run demo.sh demo.sh others I m sure... 15:36:25 Tried runing the command form a K window.... 15:36:33 Running the file, that is... 15:42:05 wb9mjn: did you make it executable? 15:42:16 ls -l demo.sh 15:42:27 djb_rh has quit 15:42:27 djb_rh_ has joined #emc 15:42:33 make sure the x permission bit is on 15:42:45 otherwise, chmod +x demo.sh 15:42:52 then run it: ./demo.sh 15:55:30 Figured it out....had to type bash demo.sh 15:55:44 Then found two errors in the script itself... 15:57:39 One error was there were two -i in a command, when there shuold have been a -i and a -o for input and output... 15:58:04 Then the other I m pretty sure was a type, a -z in place of a -s .... 15:59:45 The make install does not work in that stuff ( /usr/local/emc/src/ncutils ) either, but it was easy enough to copy the bin files to /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/emc/src/ncutils/bins2go ... 16:01:18 Had previously tried sh demo , and logged back in as root .... 16:01:42 As I could not copy the files where they needed to go as a user even with sudo ... 16:02:03 you do not have to type bash demo.sh - that may work if the file is not set executable properly 16:02:29 Which I needed to do to as the demo.sh script reads the files from those locations... 16:02:29 my advice above is correct 16:02:55 Welp, the bash demo.sh worked...Did not see your advice while I was in the other room... 16:04:04 Wish there was a way to permanently set the file browser so it lists things by text...as the iconic representations in KDE are too incomplete in the information they convey... 16:04:40 don't know anything about file browsers, sorry 16:04:58 djb_rh_ is now known as djb_rh 16:06:13 The file was set to be an executable already....They could put a little X up in the corner of the icon to indicate executable is set...although the gears and shell icons are supposed to be 16:06:18 executables... 16:07:07 ./ is the kinda tribal knowledge that gets me in trouble all the time with Linux.... 16:07:37 If the executable bit is set, why not just execute when the file name is typed in ? 16:09:54 wb9mjn: Because "." is not listed in $PATH by default. 16:12:16 wb9mjn-servo has joined #emc 16:12:24 imagine that you are in /home/eviluser, and he's created an executable in that directory called "sl", which removes all the files in your home directory. When you type "sl" instead of "ls", it executes. 16:15:53 wb9mjn-servo has left #emc 16:16:04 wb9mjn-servo has joined #emc 16:17:23 Also messing around with TTT, that s next...hi... 16:20:03 What is FT_New_Face ? 16:22:31 FT_New_Face is one of the APIs of the freetype library. It's the one that opens a ttf file and lets the program do subsequent operations like finding out the shape of a particular letter 16:22:53 if you get this error, it probably means you need to specify a ttf file on the commandline: Fatal error in FT_New_Face: cannot open resource (1) 16:23:10 When I run TTT it says it cannot be found...yep..that s the fatal error I see.. 16:25:14 heating up the room here with a c:/search.... 16:26:48 there are plenty of free but terrible ttf fonts on the net. http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts.html 16:28:22 Freefont 2 was apparently included in the rc_46 distribution of EMC...there are allot of fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/ 16:28:41 And its listed by the package manager... 16:29:00 So I have to pick one ahead of opening the program ? 16:29:22 you name the font on the commandline 16:29:41 $ ./ttt -? 16:29:41 ./ttt [-?] [-f /some/file.ttf] 'The Text' 16:29:56 Ok.... 16:33:27 Does 'The Text' have to be enclosed in quotes on the command line ? 16:33:48 yes 16:34:02 Double or single quotes ? 16:34:03 well, if it includes whitespace 16:34:53 these are all equivalent: 'The Text' The\ Text "The Text" 16:35:14 Ok....got a big g code listing in test out... 16:35:44 it's the shell that interprets the quoting, not ttt. 16:35:54 use shell redirection to store the gcode to a file 16:36:02 ./ttt ... 'The Text' > thetext.ngc 16:36:26 Ok... 16:36:30 Or cut and paste... 16:46:50 But then one gets snagged by directory permissions again.... 16:57:11 03rayhenry * 10emc2/scripts/emc.in: sudo emcsh to prevent error messages on shutdown. 17:00:18 rayh has joined #emc 17:05:48 Happy New Year Ray... 17:06:18 Thank you. To you also. 17:06:52 Messing around with the ttt program and the ncutils....and being generally grumpy.... 17:07:08 I should really get a whole night's sleep.... 17:07:38 to much fun? 17:07:50 ttt? 17:08:16 Its cradek and jeplers True Type Text program... 17:09:22 oh okay. 17:10:02