00:02:54 <asdfqwega> paul_c:  I saw your post about BDI-4.08 and AMD stuff
00:03:19 <asdfqwega> I don't know if it's any help, but I'm using your .debs on a Duron 600
00:04:37 <asdfqwega> It's an older Asus A7V mobo that I had tried to use for a jukebox, but couldn't.
00:04:56 <paul_c> As long as /proc/cpu doesn't report K6 or K7, it should be OK. ('cept for the homing bug)
00:04:58 <asdfqwega> Any soundcard I put in it gave it fits.
00:05:12 <asdfqwega> I'll check
00:05:30 <paul_c> * paul_c disappears for 30 mins.
00:07:00 <asdfqwega> CPU family: 6
00:07:07 <asdfqwega> model: 3
00:07:24 <asdfqwega> model name:  AMD Duron
00:08:02 <asdfqwega> I guess I dodged that bullet :)
00:08:27 <anonimasu> :)
00:10:11 <asdfqwega> Time to go hopper shopping / skip diving
00:10:33 <asdfqwega> Need to dig out my flak jacket and hardhat, first
00:10:56 <anonimasu> :]
00:11:05 <anonimasu> haha flak jackets are good
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00:14:19 <A-L-P-H-A> stuck... need to get low profile #8 Socket Hex Head cap screws, that are about maybe 1" ro 1.5" in length. horray... and #8 nuts.  [should have made the part bigger, so I could use what I have.
00:14:32 <anonimasu> :(
00:16:30 <anonimasu> a-l-p-h-a: what are you making?
00:16:38 <A-L-P-H-A> :)
00:16:54 <A-L-P-H-A> umm... nuk-E-lar bomb.
00:16:55 <A-L-P-H-A> :)
00:17:02 <anonimasu> haha
00:17:13 <anonimasu> what do you mill uranium with?
00:17:17 <A-L-P-H-A> I'm making an brack/spindle assembly for an rotary axis for my lathe.
00:17:24 <A-L-P-H-A> uranium is soft. :)
00:17:25 <anonimasu> ah ok
00:17:35 <anonimasu> ah I havent machined that stuff..
00:17:39 <anonimasu> I hear it's nasty for your skin
00:17:40 <anonimasu> :D
00:17:44 <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.lloydleung.com/EMC
00:18:16 <A-L-P-H-A> I just finished the spindle portion of the thing... I'll photo it, and put it up.
00:18:23 <anonimasu> ok
00:18:27 <anonimasu> I'll look after I've had my shower
00:19:10 <A-L-P-H-A> 'ight... in the mean time I'll create a nice backdrop for m part to be photographed. :)
00:36:16 <anonimasu> iab
00:36:16 <anonimasu> :)
00:36:43 <anonimasu> I ordered a boring head today :)
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00:46:47 <A-L-P-H-A> uploading them now.
00:50:00 <A-L-P-H-A> another 10 megs to upload.
00:50:02 <A-L-P-H-A> :(
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00:53:27 <A-L-P-H-A> http://lloydleung.com/EMC/2005_01_19/
00:57:58 <A-L-P-H-A> anonimasu, that was the link, if you wanted tosee.  it's going to go all together with a bracket (yet to be made) to fit on my lathe's spindle, so I can have a rotary axis.
00:59:35 <anonimasu> ok
00:59:39 <anonimasu> I'll check it now
00:59:43 <anonimasu> I'll be going to bed afterwards
01:00:36 <anonimasu> very nice :)
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01:02:21 <paul_c> good evening Seattle
01:02:38 <A-L-P-H-A> paul_c, so no hold ups in customs paul_c?
01:03:09 <paul_c> wil let you know tomorrow.
01:03:14 <anonimasu> :)
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01:34:27 <gezr> oh my gosh, I must get my bike back together and working, after seeing the turbo charged things videos its a must
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08:59:23 <anonimasu> gezr: turbocharging it?
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11:26:32 <alex_joni> hello all
11:27:03 <anonimasu> hello
11:27:19 <alex_joni> hey an0n... what's up?
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11:39:32 <anonimasu> not much working
11:39:55 <anonimasu> coding and thinking about a design of a supercharger housing, I finally found a good source for precision made gears..
11:40:55 <anonimasu> and 
11:41:13 <anonimasu> and I've got a good design of the suport bearings aswell
11:42:55 <anonimasu> the only problem will be that I might need ceramic bearings..
11:43:06 <alex_joni> I see...
11:43:21 <anonimasu> the max speed of the impeller will be about 25000rpm..
11:44:30 <anonimasu> so finding any bearings might be a bit hard..
11:45:07 <alex_joni> * alex_joni has also problems finding bearings, linear guides
11:45:13 <alex_joni> rack and pinions, etc
11:45:15 <anonimasu> yeah
11:45:25 <anonimasu> we deal with skf at work so I can get bearings :9
11:45:27 <anonimasu> but they are pricey
11:45:31 <anonimasu> most likelyu
11:45:36 <alex_joni> yeah...
11:45:42 <anonimasu> I could go for oil film bearings.. but that solution sucks.
11:45:49 <alex_joni> well.. better pricy but good ;)
11:46:02 <anonimasu> I have too small shaft area to support that arrangement
11:46:15 <anonimasu> I'd have to make the housing in 3" alu
11:46:40 <anonimasu> and that still wouldnt solve the load issue the helical gears will have..
11:47:13 <anonimasu> :)
11:47:30 <anonimasu> the same oppinion as I have..
11:47:41 <anonimasu> it's not for anything production wise, so the bearings can be pricey..
11:50:28 <alex_joni> yup...
11:50:28 <alex_joni> but I wanna design a plasma-cutter
11:50:28 <alex_joni> still gotta learn a bit about mechanics
11:50:28 <anonimasu> :)
11:50:28 <alex_joni> and.. the final product needs to be cheap
11:50:39 <alex_joni> so I can't choose pricy guides, racks, etc
11:50:46 <anonimasu> I found a good company over here..
11:50:53 <alex_joni> yeah?
11:50:53 <anonimasu> the rails they sell are cheap..
11:50:58 <alex_joni> got a link?
11:51:09 <anonimasu> http://www.solectro.se
11:51:20 <anonimasu> the expensive things are the carridges..
11:51:45 <anonimasu> although not that expensive..
11:52:27 <anonimasu> and they are in swedish :/
11:52:43 <anonimasu> "mekanik"
11:52:43 <alex_joni> I am a distributor for some swedish machines...
11:52:49 <anonimasu> is where you want to go
11:52:51 <alex_joni> SPT if you know them
11:53:11 <anonimasu> http://www.solectro.se/Products/Category.asp?SectionId=854
11:53:15 <anonimasu> never heard about them
11:53:22 <alex_joni> plasma cutting
11:53:28 <anonimasu> nope :(
11:53:54 <anonimasu> there you have what you are looking for
11:53:59 <alex_joni> yeah
11:54:21 <anonimasu> they dont have prices on the web though..
11:54:35 <anonimasu> but if you write down their part numbers I could check the catalog for you
11:55:20 <anonimasu> the carriges are about 200$
11:55:30 <anonimasu> most of them
11:57:27 <alex_joni> I'm not very fond of those alu-extruded profiles
11:58:41 <anonimasu> they have rails aswell.. somwhere..
12:00:49 <anonimasu> or do you mean thoose that you build stuff in?
12:01:07 <alex_joni> hmmm... seems I found a distributor in Romania for Rollon
12:01:12 <alex_joni> http://www.rollon.com/
12:01:33 <anonimasu> nice :)
12:01:54 <anonimasu> I wish I could find somone that could cast me a machine base :]
12:02:10 <anonimasu> in epucrete.de or somthing like that
12:03:42 <anonimasu> building a stiff machine in somthing like that wouldnt be too hard
12:05:11 <anonimasu> oh cool rollon is in sweden aswell
12:05:40 <alex_joni> yes?
12:05:48 <alex_joni> don't know how good they are thou...
12:06:18 <anonimasu> if I were to build a machine from scratch, I'd go with skf..
12:06:25 <anonimasu> but well, I could never afford SKF rails.
12:06:32 <anonimasu> :)
12:06:36 <anonimasu> not right now that is..
12:07:08 <anonimasu> skf has insane precision on their stuff :)
12:07:24 <anonimasu> unmeasurable backslash in screws.. :)
12:07:31 <anonimasu> err ballscrews..
12:07:37 <anonimasu> although by my means that is..
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12:10:23 <alex_joni> I like UNILINE
12:10:30 <alex_joni> what do you think of those... ?
12:10:39 <anonimasu> never heard of :9
12:10:40 <anonimasu> :)
12:10:51 <alex_joni> from rollon, one of their products
12:10:56 <alex_joni> http://www.rollon.com/english/products/uniline.htm
12:11:00 <anonimasu> ah
12:11:15 <anonimasu> btw, what are your precision needs?
12:11:25 <alex_joni> for plasma?
12:11:35 <alex_joni> around +/-0.1 mm would be more than enough
12:11:43 <anonimasu> ah ok
12:12:04 <anonimasu> anything from rollon would probably be good then
12:12:11 <anonimasu> anything sealed that is..
12:12:39 <alex_joni> yup.. that's what I thought too
12:13:03 <alex_joni> I like uniline
12:13:11 <alex_joni> I would put a DC motor on one side
12:13:14 <anonimasu> * anonimasu thinks about 0.003 repeatability when thinking about rails
12:13:28 <anonimasu> nice
12:13:35 <anonimasu> ungeared?
12:13:36 <alex_joni> and a encoder on the other side
12:13:41 <alex_joni> geared
12:13:45 <anonimasu> ok
12:13:57 <alex_joni> I have some nice 100W motors (used for wirefeeders on the MIG stuff I have)
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12:14:07 <alex_joni> 42V DC
12:14:16 <anonimasu> if you are building a large gantry you will need to drive em from both sides..
12:14:25 <alex_joni> yeah...
12:14:33 <anonimasu> I talked to some enginner a while back about it..
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12:14:44 <alex_joni> how about a rod between the two sides
12:14:46 <alex_joni> ?
12:15:04 <anonimasu> you mean and drive the both sides with one motor?
12:15:10 <alex_joni> yup
12:15:15 <anonimasu> that'd work..
12:15:16 <alex_joni> if the motor handles the load
12:15:21 <anonimasu> yep
12:15:26 <alex_joni> take a look at uniline.htm
12:15:32 <alex_joni> there's a sample app there
12:15:40 <alex_joni> plasma cutting ;)
12:16:04 <anonimasu> looks really nice
12:16:45 <anonimasu> I am kind of curious about the price
12:16:46 <anonimasu> :)
12:17:09 <alex_joni> me too
12:17:11 <anonimasu> it's a nice deal when it's belt driven aswell..
12:17:29 <alex_joni> I wasn't so enthusiast about belt drive... but if it works ;)
12:18:25 <anonimasu> for about $800 per side for a longer screw I bet it'll rock :D
12:18:34 <anonimasu> I dont know if that's enough for ballscrwes..
12:18:37 <anonimasu> screws..
12:18:45 <alex_joni> screws are not an option
12:18:48 <anonimasu> yeah :)
12:18:54 <alex_joni> too expensive for long ones
12:19:03 <alex_joni> if I want to extend the machine to 2x12...
12:19:14 <alex_joni> don't think I'll find a 12m screw D:
12:19:15 <alex_joni> :D
12:19:24 <anonimasu> haha
12:19:25 <anonimasu> yeah
12:19:27 <anonimasu> exactly
12:19:41 <anonimasu> belt drives handle dirt better then screws aswell
12:19:46 <alex_joni> belt neither
12:19:59 <alex_joni> so I think the only thing would be rack & pinion
12:20:06 <anonimasu> oh, I think they sell that long belts..
12:20:07 <anonimasu> :)
12:20:20 <alex_joni> but I'm not sure how elastic they are at 12m
12:20:25 <alex_joni> and what precision you get
12:20:43 <anonimasu> they dont flex that much if they are dimensioned for it
12:20:56 <alex_joni> you think?
12:21:17 <anonimasu> not that awfully much
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12:22:19 <anonimasu> I was surprised on how they were on my mill.. but that's not 12m
12:22:56 <anonimasu> btw, isnt thoose uniline units with belts and all included?
12:23:29 <alex_joni> yup
12:23:34 <anonimasu> :)
12:23:52 <anonimasu> then they will probably be good enough up to the max length they sell them at
12:24:54 <alex_joni> that's what I'm searching now
12:24:56 <anonimasu> we had some belts from a company for driving a compressor on a machine... toothed belts that would handle a couple of 1000N's ;)
12:25:05 <alex_joni> jeee...
12:25:06 <alex_joni> ;)
12:25:35 <anonimasu> about 7000
12:25:57 <anonimasu> but the length is the problem..
12:26:19 <anonimasu> the company I buy stuff from has lengths up to 2m on warehouse..
12:26:29 <alex_joni> I have no idea what N's I'd need :(
12:26:33 <anonimasu> err 4m for some small ones
12:26:44 <anonimasu> probably not that much
12:27:03 <anonimasu> since you drive both sides that reduces the load on each side.. aswell
12:27:20 <alex_joni> yup...
12:27:28 <alex_joni> no idea how to calculate it though...
12:27:34 <anonimasu> * anonimasu neither
12:27:45 <anonimasu> brb need to work a bit
12:28:26 <alex_joni> ok.. later ;)
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21:23:15 <robin_sz> eveny
21:30:54 <gezr> howdy
21:31:34 <gezr> anonimasu : no im not turbocharging mine
21:31:53 <gezr> anonimasu : oh and on a side you were saying yesterday your ball screw pitch is 2mm?
21:35:23 <anonimasu> gezr: I said 5mm..
21:35:51 <anonimasu> gezr: if I wrote 2 that's a typo.. :)
21:36:01 <gezr> i was just thinking about it at work
21:36:06 <gezr> I wasnt sure
21:36:30 <gezr> so you get like what was that number .002mm resoultuion at 2000cpr?
21:36:46 <anonimasu> I gear that 4:1
21:37:11 <anonimasu> 2 was my spindle hp :9
21:37:12 <anonimasu> :)
21:37:33 <gezr> so 4 of the servo to 1 of the screw?
21:37:54 <anonimasu> no.. 1 servo to a toothed belt
21:38:10 <gezr> ah, servo one time, screw 4 times
21:38:16 <anonimasu> opposite..
21:38:31 <anonimasu> servo 4 times screw 1 time I have tiny servos :)
21:38:37 <gezr> haahahah, 4 servo one screw, ah okay
21:38:50 <anonimasu> 4:1 ratio ;) 
21:40:21 <anonimasu> But I dont run em on full resolution right now that gives me a too slow speed to be acceptable..
21:40:39 <anonimasu> err I use the multiplier of the geckos..
21:40:44 <anonimasu> g340's..
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21:43:18 <A-L-P-H-A> it's SOOO nice to be a regular at a place you buy tools.  They know me by name, and yet I don't know theirs at all.  But they give me discounts, and don't charge me tax. :)  I love them.
21:43:30 <A-L-P-H-A> Nice old ladies that work there...
21:44:29 <anonimasu> haha
21:44:30 <anonimasu> neat
21:45:08 <A-L-P-H-A> I get a quoted price from them... and when I get it, they charge me even less. :)
21:45:30 <anonimasu> haha
21:45:32 <anonimasu> very nice
21:46:02 <A-L-P-H-A> so far this whole bracket assembly thing, I think I've spent... around $100 bucks, in new tools, and materials and parts.
21:46:06 <A-L-P-H-A> Canadian.
21:46:17 <A-L-P-H-A> and I think $70 of that was on the worm and wormgear.
21:48:02 <anonimasu> :)
21:48:04 <A-L-P-H-A> $8.75 on an drill bit... used 6" on a 3ft segment of O1 drill rod.  And stock material I have kicking around.
21:48:17 <A-L-P-H-A> the whole drill rod was $25 for 3ft.
21:49:00 <gezr> cool
21:49:08 <gezr> got off easy at the store :)
21:49:19 <gezr> i pretty much have to order what I may need
21:49:29 <gezr> I love to touch stuff too
21:49:47 <A-L-P-H-A> The stock that I have came with this home shop this I knew was selling.
21:49:53 <anonimasu> hehe
21:50:44 <anonimasu> I need to leave for a bit
21:50:49 <anonimasu> I'll be back soon
21:50:53 <A-L-P-H-A> so I have a Schaublin 102 lathe (cnc'd already), a crappy benchtop mill that I've converted [which I need to fix], two rotary grinders, a medium duty mig welder with ArCO2 bottle that's full, a drill press, TONS of tooling, and TONs of alumium, and brass stock. :)
21:52:01 <anonimasu> :)
21:52:01 <anonimasu> nice
21:52:11 <gezr> nice indeed
21:52:20 <A-L-P-H-A> all for a very sweet deal... $4.5K Cdn.
21:52:26 <anonimasu> that's a good deal
21:52:43 <A-L-P-H-A> I sold off the old controllers, and made my own...
21:52:58 <anonimasu> brb
21:53:17 <A-L-P-H-A> oh yeah, I got tiny little air compressor which I sold off as well.
21:54:17 <A-L-P-H-A> what else? hmm... gear cutters, carbide indexable turning tools, a very nice collet set for the mill.  a few stepper motors... a bunch of different sized endmills.
21:54:24 <gezr> I need a vertical mill, my little horizontal doesnt hardly ever get used
21:54:37 <gezr> yummy gear cutters
21:54:39 <A-L-P-H-A> so, all in all, a NICE hual.
21:54:54 <A-L-P-H-A> yeah, I've got a sandwhich bag full of gear cutters...
21:55:11 <A-L-P-H-A> i don't make gears... so I don't know what to do with them. :)
21:55:12 <A-L-P-H-A> hehe.
21:56:00 <A-L-P-H-A> I want a 12x19" benchtop lathe...
21:57:36 <A-L-P-H-A> nice thing is, I've made my money back on the toys already. :)
21:57:54 <A-L-P-H-A> so everything else is gravey now... make money to buy more toys for it.
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