00:00:00 two words: FLIGHT MEDICAL 00:00:38 that sounds like valium.. 00:00:40 :p 00:01:16 yeah...but get a prescription for that stuff here and you are grounded 00:01:30 (i'm a pilot) 00:01:59 for good? 00:02:06 or just while you eat em? 00:02:12 for good 00:02:42 seems kind of silly to me 00:02:58 but that's the rule here 00:03:29 I guess the reasoning is 00:03:46 if you need medication for stress 00:04:09 you should not be intrusted with people's lives 00:04:13 why is that? 00:04:13 well, it's usa.. that tells it all 00:04:13 :) 00:04:29 actually makes sense I guess 00:05:05 Flying is not at all stressful 00:05:16 until something goes wrong... 00:06:05 well post 911 USA is getting to be a police state 00:06:19 yep 00:06:39 getting... Have gotten 00:07:10 english composition practice? 00:07:29 haha 00:08:41 sorry I was using the merkin dialect 00:08:54 usa plural 00:09:20 les: flight medical ? what's that ? 00:10:17 every so often you have to take a physical with a flight surgeon 00:10:37 Last time i had to negotiate immigration, I could swear that the USA had already turned in to a police state.... Photographing & fingerprinting everyone.... Suprised they didn't take DNA samples as well. 00:10:38 in other words... a finger wave ha ha 00:10:52 If you so much as take aspirin regularly and there is a record 00:10:56 les: and there's no way you could try not to stress that much? 00:10:56 I know it sounds like a stupid question.. :) 00:10:58 your'e grounded 00:11:27 I guess I'll never ever own a cert :p 00:11:55 anon: I am type A. If no stress is availible I will create it haha 00:11:55 anonimasu: best not to subject your self to gov regs 00:12:40 les: ouch 00:12:52 i'm getting stressed out noe bacause of all those misspellings ha 00:13:04 but hey...I can't type 00:13:20 slomo: I live off antiinflamatories.. :) 00:13:22 waht mipsellings ? 00:13:38 les: it dosent matter we understand you anyway 00:14:33 ...and I made As in college grammar...sigh 00:14:46 for a free society, we have a lot of police entitiies 00:14:48 crs syndrome I guess 00:15:22 slomo: sure do 00:15:41 I can't take commercial air travel anymore 00:15:48 can't spell either 00:15:54 I get upset with all the seaches and such 00:16:08 serches 00:16:14 now that was a typo 00:16:27 les: your not even a commercial pilot? 00:16:50 les knows how to spell searches ;) 00:17:03 just a private pilot 00:17:04 but 00:17:10 argh. 00:17:12 and can type quick, also 00:17:26 we fly in the same airspace as commercial jets 00:17:31 same rules 00:17:44 sometimes even with permission 00:18:02 most times without :) 00:18:10 haha I learned to fly 8 dme from ohare...so yeah 00:18:39 I flew at 500' over the 'molesworth' cruise missile base once ... 00:18:53 ^_^ 00:19:12 they got 'a bit' upset 00:19:15 bust 1600 msl in the pattern...shiny official cars will be there to meet you when you land 00:19:20 robin: ha 00:19:48 but ive only been chased down the runway by fire-engines the once :) 00:20:14 1600 msl ? 00:20:16 I busted ohare once...just turned the transponder off real quik and made a nice dive 00:20:30 1600 feet above mean sea level 00:20:34 heh 00:20:54 the BS'er doesn't stand a chance ! 00:21:05 opps the first 00:21:06 why's that illegal? 00:21:17 jets above 00:21:21 heh.. 00:21:27 controlled air space 00:21:51 well they do get upset when you bust the airspace of one of the word's largest airports and they have to shut it down 00:22:04 REAL upset 00:22:06 you get a big central core around a commercial airport, like a big cylinder 00:22:25 ah yeah, non flight space.. 00:22:29 all the way to the ground . .. plus 'stubs' on the runway axes ... 00:22:33 or whatever they call it :) 00:22:45 so yo ucan fly around the side, under the stub 00:23:04 but break 1600 (or whatever the stub height is) and they get upset 00:23:52 in reallity, unless you have mode C on the txpdr, theyll never know 00:24:16 We can fly in that airspace... but must have a 24 hr reservation 00:24:24 and $150 to land 00:24:30 I need to go to bed now 00:24:31 oucha 00:24:35 robin_sz: txpdr ? we don't need no steenking txpdr 00:24:44 heh 00:24:46 slomo: kite flying? 00:24:51 ^_^ 00:25:07 have a nice night anon 00:25:13 even the little tail dragger I fly now has a txdpr with mode C 00:25:24 nigh anonimasu 00:25:27 yeah night 00:25:30 slomo: just kidding 00:25:43 :) 00:25:53 yes mode c altitude reporting is required most everywhere here 00:25:57 thats the nice thing about 'permit' aircraft .. if you find some nice gear, you can fit it 00:26:13 not familiar... 00:26:19 I thnk they call it 'experimental' in the US? 00:26:24 oh ok 00:26:30 homebuilt on a permit to fly 00:26:34 don't fly em 00:26:46 :] 00:26:47 maybe recreational pilot cert 00:26:57 lost too many friends in em 00:27:23 slomo: better to get the full PPSEL 00:27:33 recreational is very limited 00:27:36 ive lost too many on bikes 00:27:55 les: even that's limiting 00:28:06 sure it is 00:28:24 but one can always get more ratings 00:28:34 I have only two 00:28:39 les: or go under the radar 00:28:45 when I have more money, I'll get an IR and a night rating 00:28:49 complex aircraft and High performance 00:29:07 I have night 00:29:31 beautiful, smooth, DANGEROUS 00:29:38 ive done a few night landings 00:29:42 very weird 00:29:52 you land soemwhere deeeeeep in the runway 00:30:19 in the bfr for night you have to land with the electrical system turned off 00:30:34 bfr? 00:30:53 biennial flight review 00:30:58 right 00:31:03 fun :) 00:31:06 all pilots are retested every two years 00:31:27 im out of hours ... again 00:31:36 but flying a bit more now with $mate 00:31:43 we share it out 00:32:00 night bfr requires simulated electrical AND engine failure 00:32:07 I paye for the fuel, he pays for the plane. seems fair 00:32:13 eeps. 00:32:18 don't schedule it on a moonless night! 00:32:27 night gliding in a brick lovely 00:32:39 yeah 00:32:53 les: a/c type you fly ? 00:33:05 when I firstl learnt it was at a big airport, 4000' runway, lots of movement 00:33:13 I do not fly at night much...deadly in a single engine plane 00:33:17 I learnt ZIP about flying 00:33:39 the stuff ive doen recently, grass strip in a taildragger ... 00:33:44 its been GREAT 00:35:02 we visited a gliding club the other day, no runway, just a big patch of green, choose a direction and land it. no radio, no signals board .. just you and your decisions 00:35:07 81.100.211.99/bdi-4.08.iso = 4.4 hours to go 00:35:17 slomo: Piper warrior, archer, Dakota,cessna 172, 182, diamond katana 00:35:49 robin: I do not have a tail dragger endorsement 00:35:51 les: quite as differance ther 00:36:28 slomo: not much difference...except for power 00:37:08 after a coffee, we used the bit of tarmac that people think is the road to the clubhouse to take off on .. the guy in the clubhouse just said "make sure theres no one turning in at the gate and you'll be fine, if someone turns in after you start rolling , keep going, you'll go over the top befor ethey reeach you" ... 00:37:28 haw 00:37:39 you dont get that at big airports :) 00:37:49 you get to think a lot more for yourself 00:37:58 guess not 00:38:31 one guy we meet up with has a KR2 homebuilt, 00:38:32 les: NOTHING beats HP 00:38:55 smallest aircraft to do UK->australia :) 00:39:33 slomo: yes..weight and balance in a c172 is such that one lardass in the back and full fuel can kill you 00:40:01 les: http://www.fu.uni-lj.si/personal/bojan/aviation/kr2-300.jpg 00:40:02 dakota: if it fits inside weight and balance is ok 00:40:03 slippy 00:40:09 les: i know, lost five buddies that way, in one a/c 00:40:25 les: a 172, no less 00:40:37 lets see 00:40:42 172 ... 4 seats 00:40:46 5 buddies 00:40:48 hmmm ... 00:41:02 a 172 has four seats but is not a four passenger aircraft 00:41:25 unless you have 30 minutes of fuel 00:41:31 quite 00:41:38 a 182 is a better proposition 00:41:50 yes 00:41:56 flying up canyon, hot august afternoon, you figure it out 00:42:05 oh ... 00:42:50 5 ... thats not an accident 00:42:56 thats putting real effort into it 00:43:14 les: like that KR2? 00:43:19 young pilot, rented a/c 00:43:25 sigh 00:43:35 3 and full tanks is pushing it in a 172 00:43:42 flying isnt dangerous 00:43:50 but it doesnt forgive mistakes 00:43:55 right 00:44:22 the center of gravity allowance is about 10 inches in that plane 00:44:27 you read some of the ferry pilot stuff on 172's? 00:44:38 full tanks, and a barrel 00:44:49 too far back and a spin is unrecoverable 00:45:21 robin: read some...particularly about feery pilots short lifespans 00:45:29 ferry 00:46:06 I read some stuff a while back about guys ferrying 172s to europe .... full tnaks and a barrel in the back. fly in ground effect for a couple of 100nm over the sea 00:46:23 cool 00:46:28 frightening 00:46:33 oh look, wave. 00:46:37 can't get above ground effect? 00:46:42 nope 00:46:45 wow 00:47:05 this was back in the days when trimble had just started making GPSs 00:47:11 like wright brothers flyer simulation I tried 00:47:12 so .. ealry 80s I guess 00:47:46 their 'canrd' desing was not helping them any 00:47:50 canard 00:48:06 completely unstable in pitch 00:48:13 quite 00:48:43 bank past 20 degrees...instant spin 00:48:52 at least on the simulator 00:49:31 probably less in reallity ;) 00:49:46 wing warping .. great paln ;) 00:49:56 you know this talk is making me want to go to the airport 00:50:19 and be relieved of my hard earned money 00:50:57 slomo: flying little airplanes is HORRIBLY expensive 00:51:28 actually big ones too 00:51:37 les: priced the cost of fabric lately ? 00:51:49 i'm in the wrong business 00:52:00 no but I'm sure it's high 00:52:05 ceconite is 00:52:20 les: what's avgas going for there these days ? 00:52:39 varies 00:52:51 $3 or so for 100ll 00:53:07 that would be cheap for robin 00:53:22 i've heard reports of better than $5.00 00:53:30 in the bush 00:53:41 some places no doubt 00:54:02 Georgia has some of the lowest fuel prices in the country 00:54:15 jepler has quit 00:54:30 you a Georgia boy ? 00:55:03 born here...grew up in south florida...mostly lived in Chicago 00:55:09 so yes and no? 00:56:09 just curious 00:56:29 I am here now because I inherited a farm. 00:56:30 you don't trype with an accent 00:56:35 haha 00:56:44 les: this is my mates KR2 site, http://www.alagem.com/cgi-bin/subsite/wt/welcome.asp 00:56:44 no accent 00:56:58 les: his UK to AUS trip has aflightplan on there 00:57:01 that's why i couldn't place the drawl ... 00:57:01 but I casnnot even understand my relatives here 00:57:23 robin: wow 00:57:37 I eat grits though 00:58:09 CIA-3 has joined #emc 00:58:09 me too :) 00:58:36 My hillbilly relatives say I talk too fast and they cannot understand me 00:58:39 see that spec: empty weight 242Kg 536 lb :) 00:59:10 what's the wing loading? 00:59:30 for a time , iworked for an indian, from georgia, and when he called on the phone.... 00:59:33 max? 00:59:49 900lbs/78feet 00:59:55 it was, like come on, spit it out, hurry up and say it 01:00:01 yikes 01:00:09 slomo: haha 01:00:18 I am a bit cherokee 01:00:23 only a little 01:00:36 slipppppppy though ... 105 knot cruise and 152 knot max 01:00:37 he was all cherokee 01:01:03 anyway, its late 01:01:03 night yall 01:01:08 high wing loading=smooth ride 01:01:18 low = passengers puke 01:01:23 but ... tricky to land 01:01:24 gnight 01:01:34 its VERY quick on the landings 01:01:34 yup 01:01:38 right .. 01:01:40 night 01:01:41 see ya 01:01:44 robin_sz has quit 01:02:23 curious slomo...how did you end up in alaska? 01:03:10 my dad met my mom, and the rest is, as they say, history 01:03:26 I see 01:03:53 so a native alaskan? 01:04:05 you betcha 01:04:10 wow 01:04:12 cool 01:04:26 or...cold haha 01:04:37 no, damn cold 01:04:41 heh 01:05:21 we have had an unusual "mini summer" here for a couple weeks 01:05:34 temps in the 70's 01:05:44 but that is about to end 01:05:59 It does get below zero here sometimes 01:06:24 not like Chicago though 01:07:11 I have an issue in the spray booth ehen it gets cold 01:07:20 I have heated makeup air 01:07:38 but only about 20 degrees temp rise 01:07:51 so on cold days we cannot spray 01:08:18 it may be a problem soon 01:09:38 it would be a problem here today then, about -2 at just after 4pm 01:09:47 need a heat exchanger to recover some of that warmth we just blow out the booth 01:10:05 common problem I guess 01:10:19 well when you get it built, send that warm air this way, would ya ? 01:10:28 haha sure 01:10:58 I need to go get some dinner here I guess 01:11:05 still early for you 01:11:31 8: 12 here 01:11:33 yea, but it's starting to get dark, daylight is short thistime of year 01:11:56 4 hr day prob? 01:12:13 more like 6, at the max 01:12:19 wow 01:12:41 ok to the kitchen for me...talk later! 01:12:50 daylight about 9am, dark by about 4:30-5 01:13:07 nice chatting with you 01:13:19 same here later 01:14:17 jepler has joined #emc 01:18:43 I made it back from dinner 01:23:45 whajageat ? 01:28:43 81.100.211.99/bdi-4.08.iso = ETA 11:31:33 what's up with that ? 01:29:12 15:35:34] 81.100.211.99/bdi-4.08.iso = 4.4 hours to go 01:43:25 oh some carnie asada soft tacos :) 01:45:10 gezr: jagetenuff? 01:46:00 I got a spam message, froma bank, so I checked it out, its a way for the holder to steal acount info from the bank, I tired turning it in, but the dang real banks form to submit questions and stuff sucked so hard I couldnt paste into it, it kept vomiting onthe email's html tags, so I guess I wont be a hero today 01:46:09 slomo : oh my yeah I did 01:47:52 gezr: good, gotta go, maybe send it to your isp 01:47:55 see ya 01:48:01 take care 01:48:08 leave 01:48:17 oops 01:48:20 slomo has left #emc 01:51:58 picnet has quit 02:16:33 paul_c has left #emc 03:29:23 picnet has joined #emc 04:13:59 03jmkasunich * 10emc2/ (8 files in 5 dirs): added emcmot command and NML message to set homing parameters - the full capability of the EMC2 homing code as described in EMC2_Code_Notes can now be configured from the ini file and used as needed 04:30:16 picnet has quit 05:30:00 picnet has joined #emc 07:01:35 vasquez has joined #emc 07:19:18 picnet has quit 07:30:37 picnet has joined #emc 08:27:55 asdfqwega has quit 08:45:40 picnet has quit 08:45:48 les has quit 09:31:13 picnet has joined #emc 10:23:28 asdfqwega has joined #emc 10:40:44 picnet has quit 11:43:03 picnet has joined #emc 11:54:44 asdfqwega has quit 11:58:20 paul_c has joined #emc 12:12:24 picnet has quit 12:22:23 slomo has joined #emc 12:23:03 slomo has quit 12:31:36 slomo has joined #emc 12:32:05 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 3767411 12:32:20 /msg NickServ slomo 3767411 12:33:17 vasquez has quit 12:36:46 hello 12:38:48 Not long finished downloading I see... 12:43:43 ack, either your server, or my wget has problems, wget -c no worky 12:44:14 i've several files in the dir***.iso1 *.2 and so on 12:44:52 got the full file names to hand ? 12:45:24 so i'm back to one of the other mirrors, using kget, showing about 6 hrs to go 12:46:23 eh ? 12:47:32 bdi-4.08.iso & bdi-4.08.iso.sum - Two files. One the image, the second, the md5sum. 12:52:27 here's whats in the dir: bdi-4.08.iso, size 1271376, bdi-4.08.iso.1, size 44800, bdi-4.08.iso.2 size 220363104 12:52:43 failed dl's from my perspective 12:53:31 That's the kind of result wget gives without the -c flag. 12:53:57 yea, iknow:), it will not resume 12:54:55 wget -c http: bla bla 12:54:57 Connecting to 81.100.211.99:80... connected. 12:55:05 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK 12:55:21 Continued download failed on this file, which conflicts with `-c' 12:55:23 Refusing to truncate existing file `bdi-4.08.iso'. 12:56:50 what about "wget -c 81.100..." (without the http) ? 12:58:03 same same 13:01:07 Hmm... a little clue in the wget man page... 13:01:21 " Note that -c only works with FTP servers and with HTTP servers that support the "Range" header." 13:01:53 I suspect that boa doesn't support the range header... 13:08:46 thats funny, cause kget will resume from that location 13:09:42 kget is just a GUI frontend for wget... 13:26:11 les has joined #emc 13:34:00 hey les 13:43:38 picnet has joined #emc 13:45:18 hello slomo 13:46:33 ach got a call about supervising a grad student research project sponsored by my old corporation 13:46:48 As if I wasn't busy enough 13:47:11 Has to do with an encoder line I developed for them 13:47:38 May have to spend some time at university if Illinois 13:48:17 but sure can't get away right now 13:48:47 right now it will have to be telphone consulting 13:49:21 Having a problem with phones...can't hear them ring 13:50:05 with the cnc router, dust collecter, belt sander, and air compressor running at the same time it is noisy 13:50:33 need to hook some kind of light to the phone ringer 14:15:06 les: thats funny, ican't hear your phone ring either 14:23:52 haha 14:24:32 well off to the shop....starting to think about some new wiring. With 14:25:14 all the machines running we are starting to tax the electric supply. I think I will 14:25:26 need to go from 40 to 100 amps... 14:27:47 A-L-P-H-A has left #emc 14:32:15 picnet has quit 15:55:31 picnet has joined #emc 15:58:06 vasquez has joined #emc 16:13:35 paul_c: this from the archives dated: 2003-11-09 14:28...... 16:13:36 ... why not have a collection of working ini-files at the 16:13:36 dropbox on linuxCNC??? 16:13:49 is there such a beast ? 16:14:51 http://www.linuxcnc.org/Dropbox/ 16:15:40 man, shoulda asked earlier, been searching the archives for info such as this 16:22:00 not to much there 16:25:08