Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation
17 May 2012 19:20 - 17 May 2012 20:22 #20186
by crmorano
Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation was created by crmorano
So, I am using a XYZ stage I retrofitted with EMC with a Z-axis that has no limit or home switch. For my application, I use it to move around various tools to precise locations, specifically heights (Z), rather than more standard milling, so I do not have a spindle or router. Now, the height between the bottom of the tool and the top of the stage is very important for what I'm using it for, and it changes on a semi-regular basis by a few mils, as does the stage itself. The tool I use is non-conductive and cannot have anything mounted to it, and moves up and down within its holder occasionally, depending on the current function, as does the distance to the stage itself.
Here is my question:
What is a good mechanical touch off/home switch tool that I can put between the stage and the tool to use as a home switch that will give me a fixed height within the system every time that does not require conducting through the tool? I need it at least precise to 0.001" or better. What I'm imagining is some small platform that rests on the stage between the tool and stage that has a fixed known height that it triggers/releases the mechanical switch, allowing for fairly rapid and repeatable homing.
Or is there a better way to do this?
I might have missed someone else's post on this, for which I apologize, I wasn't sure what to search for.
Edit: Besides the one I found for $1250.
Here is my question:
What is a good mechanical touch off/home switch tool that I can put between the stage and the tool to use as a home switch that will give me a fixed height within the system every time that does not require conducting through the tool? I need it at least precise to 0.001" or better. What I'm imagining is some small platform that rests on the stage between the tool and stage that has a fixed known height that it triggers/releases the mechanical switch, allowing for fairly rapid and repeatable homing.
Or is there a better way to do this?
I might have missed someone else's post on this, for which I apologize, I wasn't sure what to search for.
Edit: Besides the one I found for $1250.
Last edit: 17 May 2012 20:22 by crmorano.
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17 May 2012 20:05 #20187
by BigJohnT
Replied by BigJohnT on topic Re:Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation
Can you define "precise as possible"?
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17 May 2012 20:20 #20188
by crmorano
Replied by crmorano on topic Re:Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation
I think 0.001" or better would work.
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17 May 2012 22:28 #20189
by arch dude
Replied by arch dude on topic Re:Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation
How much downward mechanical force can the tool exert without causing a problem? it the tool is extremely sensitive and cannot exert any force at all, then you will need something sophisticated (perhaps the tool could interrupt an optical beam.) If you can exert a tiny force, perhaps you can build something using a piezo sensor. If more force is acceptable, jut use a high-quality mechanical switch.
For the piezo, Assuming this is a home-brew and not something off-the-shelf, you can remove the piezo element from a $2.00 buzzer and use it. For manual touch-off, you can just connect a voltmeter across the element and read the voltage as you jog the tool. For automatic, you will need to have a computer read the voltage. Piezos are extermely sensitive: a tiny deflection will produce a measurable voltage. I suspect you will get reproducability to within 100 nanometers or so. I have used a $2.00 buzzer piezo, a 9-volt-battery, and a junkbox potentiometer to move a morroe in an interferometer, getting about 100nm/volt. The effect is similar for converting displacement to voltage as for converting voltage to displacement.
For the piezo, Assuming this is a home-brew and not something off-the-shelf, you can remove the piezo element from a $2.00 buzzer and use it. For manual touch-off, you can just connect a voltmeter across the element and read the voltage as you jog the tool. For automatic, you will need to have a computer read the voltage. Piezos are extermely sensitive: a tiny deflection will produce a measurable voltage. I suspect you will get reproducability to within 100 nanometers or so. I have used a $2.00 buzzer piezo, a 9-volt-battery, and a junkbox potentiometer to move a morroe in an interferometer, getting about 100nm/volt. The effect is similar for converting displacement to voltage as for converting voltage to displacement.
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18 May 2012 09:00 - 18 May 2012 09:00 #20196
by ArcEye
Replied by ArcEye on topic Re:Mechanical Touch Off Tool Recommendation
Hi
I made a couple of Z touch off tools last year.
The first is mechanical, an adjustable arm actuating a very sensitive limit switch.
The arm is adjusted so that it is dead level at point of actuation, so that where precisely the tool touches is not important.
The second is electrical, two pieces of aluminium separated by a plastic and epoxy sandwich are connected by the tool touch.
I have found these repeatable to within a couple of hundredths of a millimetre (0.01mm) which is better or at least comparable to your requirements.
Cost me time and bits from scrap bin.
Could easily be changed to trigger signal to LinuxCNC rather than just optical LED
regards
I made a couple of Z touch off tools last year.
The first is mechanical, an adjustable arm actuating a very sensitive limit switch.
The arm is adjusted so that it is dead level at point of actuation, so that where precisely the tool touches is not important.
The second is electrical, two pieces of aluminium separated by a plastic and epoxy sandwich are connected by the tool touch.
I have found these repeatable to within a couple of hundredths of a millimetre (0.01mm) which is better or at least comparable to your requirements.
Cost me time and bits from scrap bin.
Could easily be changed to trigger signal to LinuxCNC rather than just optical LED
regards
Last edit: 18 May 2012 09:00 by ArcEye.
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18 May 2012 09:01 - 18 May 2012 09:03 #20197
by ArcEye
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