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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 20 Jul 2012 00:13 #22234

I have read somewhere that one can get higher accuracy for threading with dual encoders and, of cource a 1 PPR homing pulse. I would run one disc, with 2 sensors, perhaps LEDs to make sure they are out of phase.
I have to admit the cost is looking a bit daunting! If I read the specs correctly, the Pico can drive 4 motors (with amps), take 4 encoders for the steppers 16 inputs and 8 outputs? Can I use some digital inputs for the spindle encoder, or is it better to use 2 axis encoder inputs?
I am happy to have various cards, or one card, depending on flexibility and cost.
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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 20 Jul 2012 04:01 #22238

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Yes, a normal encoder has two signals that are out of phase with each other and an index pulse once per revolution. A differential encoder is what is usually used and they have 6 signal lines A, A~, B, B~, Z, Z~ with Z being the index line. Thread quality will depend on the whole package not just the encoder.

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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 20 Jul 2012 05:43 #22240

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Soundreflections wrote:
I have read somewhere that one can get higher accuracy for threading with dual encoders and, of cource a 1 PPR homing pulse. I would run one disc, with 2 sensors, perhaps LEDs to make sure they are out of phase.
In that case then you just need one set of encoder inputs. All LinuxCNC "encoder" modules have three inputs, Phase A, Phase B and the Index.
If your disc has about 100 slots then you can use a parallel port for all IO.
if you go up to 1000 slots then you need a dedicated IO board such as the Pico or Mesa. Now that we know you are only talking about one encoder, the 7i76 looks like a good choice again.

My lathe has 100 slots, threading works nicely.

if you want to get started for minimal outlay one of the very cheap eBay kits might suit: (comes with a spare motor)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-Axis-TB6560-Driver-...NC-Kit-/251095203360
Or, slightly higher quality and more modular and only 2 axis
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cnc-2-Axis-Lathe-Cont...3-EMC2-/320946904472
That second set is a lot like the drivers I am using, except better and higher current. I don't think you would go far wrong with that.
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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 20 Jul 2012 11:07 #22243

Hi,
Thanks for the replies. I have now got a pulley for my motor and I have today bought a belt that actually fits the new setup. I need to gte down to programming my VFD to actually give me some torque where I need it, as I currently not start my lathe in its highest gearing.

Andy, you are tempting me sorely with your findings. I am especially looking at the second finding you posted, as it has stronger motors than the first and is still cheaper than what I think I can buy the various parts for. I cannot tell whether it includes a spindle encoder interface or not, I certainly do not think it would include motor encoder interfaces, but I am sure I can add those at a later stage if I want to maintain manual with DRO.
I take it you are quite sure I will get this setup running on Linux CNC?

Thanks and regards
Peet
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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 21 Jul 2012 09:18 #22273

I have now spent the day cleaning my entire moving assembly (temporarily gone blank for the term), every gear, thread... Now I finally have a very smooth working lathe, I cleaned the grease I had before put on the ways off, using only machine oil as a lubricant. I realise I have used grease on all the other slides, which I realise is probably not the best, which is why I was advised against it (belatedly) at projectsinmetal, where I first started posting about my lathe.
Now of course I cannot think of something to make!
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Re:Lathe conversion from stock to CNC 21 Jul 2012 10:39 #22284

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Way Oil is the proper lubricant for machine ways. I use Mobil Vactra Oil #2 Way Oil for all my machine ways.

You could make me some oil cups for my Samson lathe LOL.

John
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