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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 16 Dez 2011 11:31 #15747

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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 16 Dez 2011 11:32 #15748

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And one of the whole unit.

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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 20 Dez 2011 14:28 #15910

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thoes are the same drives as mine and Johns CHNC

so check our johns info thread on his chnc info should be in there. if not let me know i have it some where marked down.

but mine no longer them nice shiny new AC servos now.. was upgraded version gen 1 that i have in the old hardinge superslants...

nice easy to set and tune them drives and get going..

what spindle drive do you have?

rob
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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 20 Dez 2011 14:53 #15912

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On my axis drives 14 - 56 are the +-10v velocity inputs to the drives. I forget exactly how I had to enable them atm.

John
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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 20 Dez 2011 16:39 #15916

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check attached file

what i helped john out when we was playing with his machine

i think some where i haev a written out more detailed whats what, but i think image will speak for its self..
hope it helps

Edit, forum did not let me attach PDF so uploaded it

Siemens Axis - CHNC.pdf
Last Edit: 20 Dez 2011 16:42 by robh.
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Re:Bridgeport with Siemens amps and servos 22 Dez 2011 11:19 #15944

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Here is some additional info on tuning the drives that Rob sent me then reminded me I had it.
Pin15 on Power unit this needs to be confirmed as i think this is the
one to connect to GND or control 0V common
so the drives will have a common ref for all control signals and analog
in respect to the NC control

if you trace this one back should go off to control or to a GND plate
i will check this out for you tomorrow if you like on other machine

all other connectors are fine

Estop Out
73.2 & 72 this is safe to use in the Estop chain if you wish wire
through it as this goes through a relay on the axis board or run in into
a spare IO on mesa, your call using Estop chain means less wiring

the connector in middle of 73.2 & 72 is other arm side of the relay so
if u meter between them u should find a common arm, and the Normaly
Closed arm. wire as you need. as this relay picks when drive is powered up

Drive enable
id run this through a Mesa IO out or a sep relay off the mesa PWM Enable
if stock on IOs


Setup of Drives
you may not need to do this just depends how much someone has played the
drives

turn the P & I gain pots right down (Counter clockwise) (maybe make a
note of where they are or mark on pot with pen)

it would be wise to remove the motors from the machine for this as the
tacho are on the motor for Z
the X, the tacho is on the pully (unless you are lucky and its on motor)
i would advice putting slide in center and perform the below with
working limit switch or have someone watch to end of slide travel.



To setup Analog Drift
strap the Analog connectors 14 & 56 over (short circuit)
enable the drive (watch for run away)
and adjust the drift pot on the board untill motor stops moving (you can
measure the tacho feedback voltage(pin 13&55.3) with a good meter if you
like should read near 0.000V may drift a little that is fine near as
zero as can)

Tacho Feedback
this setup you could skip but aids in a nice running easy to tune drive
as controls how fast the motor spins per volt of analog input

the tacho should be 20V per 1000rev input
may be 3v/1000rpm not found one fitted with them yet i would check if
you can, may have them written on the side of tacho

10v analog in = 3000rpm on motor
1RPM motor = 0.00333V
10RPM = 0.033v
so
60v = 3000rpm on tacho
1rpm = 0.02V
10rpm = 0.2V

10RPM Is nice slow, user high if you like, i use a lab power supply i
can set voltage to.

John
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